Denis, folks,

As it was already mentioned 2.8 is already in maven [1]. Consequently
"effectively" released. In my opinion it is not correct to consider
release in progress.

Agree that 2.8.1 sounds as a proper option here.

[1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite/ignite-core/2.8.0

Best regards,
Ivan Pavlukhin

ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 17:08, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:
>
> Dmitriy,
>
> Ignite 2.8 will be announced as soon as the documentation is prepared and
> released. Until then, the release is still considered under progress. Here
> is a dedicated discussion for documentation activities. We should be ready
> soon:
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2-8-documentation-td46008.html
>
> Also, I've started a discussion related to our announcement steps. Please
> check it out and get involved:
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2-8-announcement-plan-td46238.html
>
> -
> Denis
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:29 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Unfortunately https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/ignite/2.8.0/ is
> > already there, so release was happened. I'm not sure it is a good idea to
> > substitute binaries later.  Was it announced to announce@ ?
> >
> > IMO, 2.8.1 is ok for that case.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Pavel, ++1.
> > >
> > > > 4 марта 2020 г., в 11:20, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > написал(а):
> > > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > The release has already happened.
> > > > It is on our website [1], it is on Maven [2].
> > > > People are using it, so I don't think we can do anything at this point.
> > > >
> > > > Bugs happen, we can't delay the release forever because of them. Let's
> > > fix
> > > > things in 2.8.1.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://ignite.apache.org/download.cgi
> > > > [2] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:06 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello, Igniters.
> > > >>
> > > >> Do we have a person who can fix this issue in the nearest time?
> > > >> Right now IGNITE-12746 is Open and Unassigned.
> > > >>
> > > >>> 3 марта 2020 г., в 23:54, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> > написал(а):
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ilya,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for catching that and sharing. I wonder if there are any other
> > > >>> blockers that were pushed to 2.8.x version. If there are a few then
> > we
> > > >> can
> > > >>> produce 2.8.1 shortly, otherwise, it sounds reasonable to me to fix
> > the
> > > >>> issue with putAll, update the binaries and finish the process.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -
> > > >>> Denis
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Ilya Kasnacheev <
> > > >> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hello!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have filed an issue
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12746
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think this is potentially a game breaker and makes me recommend
> > > >> avoiding
> > > >>>> 2.8, if we release it without fix (for now).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you are using any partitioned caches, anyway.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> So I suggest we withhold 2.8.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regards,
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> вт, 3 мар. 2020 г. в 20:53, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Ilya,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I do not want to force the release no matter what happens, but I
> > > think
> > > >>>>> we should release what we have to get feedback not just from the
> > > >>>>> developer community but from our users too.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> And fix all these issues in 2.8.1.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 20:33, Ilya Kasnacheev <
> > > >> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hello!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Can we please hold back publishing AI-2.8.0-rc1 as public Apache
> > > >> Ignite
> > > >>>>> 2.8
> > > >>>>>> release?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I have just been notified that
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedColocated
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.GridCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedMixed
> > > >>>>>> are flaky: they seem to deadlock on putAll sorted keys maps. They
> > > used
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>>> pass solidly on 2.7, but fail on master and ignite-2.8.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> (They fail around 1 time out of 10, so just run them 25 times to
> > > >> check)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> If there is indeed a deadlock, this would become a blocker to this
> > > >>>>> release,
> > > >>>>>> in my opinion, but I need some time to check.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Ivan,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I agree with you that the more members will check the release the
> > > >>>>>>> better will be. That's why I've shared the release candidate
> > links
> > > >>>> [1]
> > > >>>>>>> before starting a vote. The best time for starting a vote is not
> > > >>>>>>> mentioned at our release wiki page [2] (should we?) and I've also
> > > >>>>>>> failed with googling the best practices for it too. So, I've
> > > supposed
> > > >>>>>>> since all of us are working on their own tasks during weekdays
> > the
> > > >>>>>>> free time on the weekend is the best choice for cheking\voting on
> > > the
> > > >>>>>>> release. Probably this decision was wrong.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-8-RELEASE-Time-Scope-Manager-tp43616p46117.html
> > > >>>>>>> [2]
> > > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 00:37, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Also I have a comment regarding to voting. Voting for 72 hour
> > > >>>>> spanning
> > > >>>>>>>> a weekend sounds a little bit odd to me. In a particular case
> > the
> > > >>>>> more
> > > >>>>>>>> people check the release the better. And I suppose there is more
> > > >>>> time
> > > >>>>>>>> for it on weekdays for the majority.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 00:33, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to discuss threats on a
> > > >>>>> private
> > > >>>>>>> PMC list
> > > >>>>>>>>> Cannot understand why it should be discussed on a private list.
> > > >>>>> What
> > > >>>>>>>>> is the clue?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > >>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 16:00, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > >>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to discuss threats on a
> > > >>>>> private
> > > >>>>>>> PMC
> > > >>>>>>>>>> list
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 15:12 Ilya Kasnacheev <
> > > >>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> As far as my understanding goes, ignite-zookeeper is listed
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>>>>> removal
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> because it brings a lot of dependencies, some of which may
> > > >>>> have
> > > >>>>>>> known
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities, which will make the distribution also
> > > >>>>> considered
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> vulnerable by some scanners.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 14:18, Alexey Zinoviev <
> > > >>>>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, lets move to this thread. Also, the slim release could
> > > >>>> be
> > > >>>>>>> form by
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> voting on user-list
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 9:55 Alexey Goncharuk <
> > > >>>>>>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikolay, Alexey,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> First, the idea of the slim binary release and docker
> > > >>>>> image was
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> discussed
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> openly on the dev-list [1]. Second, nobody talks about
> > > >>>>>>> removing these
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> modules from the product. The idea was to create an
> > > >>>>> additional
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> which is much lighter than the current full package to
> > > >>>>> reduce
> > > >>>>>>> the size
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the downloadable artifact and reduce the number of
> > > >>>>> potential
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities in third-party libraries.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of modules was chosen subjectively by the number
> > > >>>>> of
> > > >>>>>>> questions
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the user-list, number third-party libraries (size) and
> > > >>>>>>> vulnerabilities
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> module brings. Given that there are still questions, we
> > > >>>> are
> > > >>>>>>> definitely
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to release it in 2.8.0.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move discussion to the original thread?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Slim-binary-release-and-docker-image-for-Apache-Ignite-td45110.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >

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