+1 (non-binding)

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 4:22 PM Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 5:14 PM Aihua Xu <aihu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> + (non-binding).
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:22 AM Steven Wu <stevenz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 (binding)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:09 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:54 AM Szehon Ho <szehon.apa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 (binding)  Seems cleaner to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Szehon
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:31 AM Russell Spitzer <
>>>>> russell.spit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 12:30 PM Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adding my own +1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19 AM Daniel Weeks <dwe...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this update really helps ensure row ids will be present and
>>>>>>>> reliable for upgraded tables.  Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 4:09 PM Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’d like to start a vote to incorporate the spec changes in PR
>>>>>>>>> 12781 <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12781>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are two main changes. First, the current language says that
>>>>>>>>> upgrading a table to v3 leaves all row IDs null and they are assigned 
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> the rows are rewritten for the first time (either to move or modify 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> row). The problem with this is that row IDs are missing until the 
>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>> table is rewritten, which means that the feature is unreliable. 
>>>>>>>>> Instead, I
>>>>>>>>> propose that row IDs are assigned in the first write after upgrading 
>>>>>>>>> to v3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In addition to making row IDs more useful, the change to how we
>>>>>>>>> upgrade tables allows us to simplify the spec with statements like 
>>>>>>>>> “any
>>>>>>>>> added or existing data file without first_row_id should be
>>>>>>>>> assigned one via inheritance” and “any manifest without a
>>>>>>>>> first_row_id must be assigned one when writing a manifest list”.
>>>>>>>>> I think this sets clearer expectations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second, I found some issues with the strict way that first_row_id
>>>>>>>>> is inherited and assigned in the metadata tree. The current wording 
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> prevent writers from assigning row IDs to existing data files because
>>>>>>>>> assignment was strict and only accounted for added files. Instead, I
>>>>>>>>> propose changing the wording to “must be greater than or equal to” so 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> there is some flexibility, and giving simple examples that are safe, 
>>>>>>>>> like first_row_id
>>>>>>>>> = last_assigned.first_row_id + last_assigned.added_rows_count +
>>>>>>>>> last_assigned.existing_rows_count.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at the PR and vote in the next 72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Add these changes to the spec for v3 row lineage
>>>>>>>>> [ ] +0
>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 I have questions and/or concerns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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