+1 (binding)

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 11:54 AM Szehon Ho <szehon.apa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 (binding)  Seems cleaner to me.
>
> Thanks
> Szehon
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:31 AM Russell Spitzer <
> russell.spit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 12:30 PM Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Adding my own +1.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19 AM Daniel Weeks <dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>
>>>> I think this update really helps ensure row ids will be present and
>>>> reliable for upgraded tables.  Thanks Ryan!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 4:09 PM Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d like to start a vote to incorporate the spec changes in PR 12781
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12781>.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two main changes. First, the current language says that
>>>>> upgrading a table to v3 leaves all row IDs null and they are assigned when
>>>>> the rows are rewritten for the first time (either to move or modify the
>>>>> row). The problem with this is that row IDs are missing until the entire
>>>>> table is rewritten, which means that the feature is unreliable. Instead, I
>>>>> propose that row IDs are assigned in the first write after upgrading to 
>>>>> v3.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to making row IDs more useful, the change to how we
>>>>> upgrade tables allows us to simplify the spec with statements like “any
>>>>> added or existing data file without first_row_id should be assigned
>>>>> one via inheritance” and “any manifest without a first_row_id must be
>>>>> assigned one when writing a manifest list”. I think this sets clearer
>>>>> expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, I found some issues with the strict way that first_row_id is
>>>>> inherited and assigned in the metadata tree. The current wording would
>>>>> prevent writers from assigning row IDs to existing data files because
>>>>> assignment was strict and only accounted for added files. Instead, I
>>>>> propose changing the wording to “must be greater than or equal to” so that
>>>>> there is some flexibility, and giving simple examples that are safe, like 
>>>>> first_row_id
>>>>> = last_assigned.first_row_id + last_assigned.added_rows_count +
>>>>> last_assigned.existing_rows_count.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look at the PR and vote in the next 72 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ] +1 Add these changes to the spec for v3 row lineage
>>>>> [ ] +0
>>>>> [ ] -1 I have questions and/or concerns
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>

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