No, I don't think that's bound to a version anyway, as Amogh pointed out on
the issue. I've removed it from the milestone. Thanks

Kind regards,
Fokko

Op ma 10 feb 2025 om 11:20 schreef Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com>:

> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/10745 should not be bound to
> 1.8.0 either?
>
> Regards,
> Manu
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:36 PM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> That shouldn't be included. There is still active discussion on the PR,
>> and it needs more work. The author also removed the milestone. The VOTE is
>> out, so we can start verifying.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Fokko
>>
>> Op ma 10 feb 2025 om 05:41 schreef Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> There's still https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/11216 under 1.8.0
>>> milestone.
>>> Do we want to include it?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 3:01 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Amogh
>>>>
>>>> I updated the PR with some cleanups.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 4:04 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks JB I left a review, it'll be good to get another set of eyes
>>>> on it! Thank you for surfacing and fixing these issues, it's very
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 12:50 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Here's the PR: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12195 for ref.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards
>>>> >> JB
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 5:48 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi Amogh,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I found issues in the LICENSE/NOTICE from kafka-connect-runtime
>>>> >> > distribution (what's in the distribution zip). AFAIR, we plan to
>>>> >> > distribute this distribution, so it should be fixed.
>>>> >> > I will open a PR about that today.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sorry about that.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Regards
>>>> >> > JB
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:35 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > Hey all,
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > An update, the final License/Notice release blockers are merged
>>>> (big thanks to JB, and Ryan/Fokko for helping review)! I'm in transit at
>>>> the moment, but once I get to a place with stable wifi I will cut a release
>>>> candidate.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > Thanks,
>>>> >> > > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 2:23 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <
>>>> 2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> Agreed, I wouldn't be opposed to looking into approaches to
>>>> make release times more predictable. At the same time, I'd advocate that in
>>>> the community, that anyone can propose a release at any point in time. Of
>>>> course, we can discuss as a community and make sure there's a reasonable
>>>> changeset, as well as focus review time on PRs which are close to being
>>>> ready for that release.
>>>> >> > >> To some degree this contradicts having a predictable release
>>>> schedule, but I feel like we can really just have a hybrid "Periodic
>>>> release + arbitrary off-cycle release" approach and things won't get too
>>>> crazy. It's a way to get the best of both frequency of release and user
>>>> expectations on release times.
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> An update on 1.8 to the community, we're working on updating
>>>> LICENSE/NOTICE files in the AWS/GCP/Azure bundles, thank you JB for driving
>>>> that. It's something we need to get in for the release. Once that's in, I
>>>> will cut the RC.
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> Amogh Jahagirdar
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:16 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Hi Amogh,
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Thanks !
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> I agree we should have more frequent releases, but also more
>>>> >> > >>> "predictable" release time and give visibility to the community
>>>> >> > >>> (especially users).
>>>> >> > >>> Some ASF projects are providing "tables" with release plans:
>>>> >> > >>> - https://camel.apache.org/download/
>>>> >> > >>> - https://karaf.apache.org/download.html
>>>> >> > >>> - https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/download/
>>>> >> > >>> - ...
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Maybe we can provide something similar ?
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Thanks !
>>>> >> > >>> Regards
>>>> >> > >>> JB
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 1:07 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <
>>>> 2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > Hey all,
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > Just following up here with a bit of a status update, so in
>>>> the past week or so, items in the 1.8 release milestone have been closing
>>>> out.
>>>> >> > >>> > I'm aiming to cut a release next Tuesday, Jan 28.
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > I'd like to reiterate that for any changes that don't make
>>>> the 1.8 release, we can do a fast follow 1.9 release, and from the last
>>>> community sync that seems to be the direction.
>>>> >> > >>> > In this particular case, the 1.8 release is a bit earlier
>>>> than our typical release cadence and with the 1.9 being a fast follow on, I
>>>> think we're well on track.
>>>> >> > >>> > Please add the proposed changes to the 1.9 milestone so
>>>> folks can review ahead of time!
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > In general, I'd encourage more frequent releases, changes
>>>> which are ready can just go out and with the smaller diff it reduces the
>>>> risks that exist with larger updates.
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > Thanks,
>>>> >> > >>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:05 AM Daniel Weeks <
>>>> dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> Robert,
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> I hear your frustration with the progress on the Auth
>>>> Manager work, but I believe everyone recognizes that this was a large
>>>> refactor further complicated by the need to preserve backward compatibility
>>>> and handling deprecations appropriately.  This work has gone through many
>>>> iterations as we explored how to make the changes cleanly.  Eventually the
>>>> scale of the change led to breaking up the PR for closer review, which I
>>>> believe was the right decision because we identified multiple issues after
>>>> taking that step.  That may have slowed down progress, but a lot of hours
>>>> have gone into discussing, reviewing, and validating the work in this area.
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> As a project, we have leaned away from gating releases on
>>>> specific features because it leads to slower release cycles and prevents
>>>> other features that are ready from going out.  We also don't want to rush
>>>> features just to hit a release target, but rather release more frequently
>>>> to make changes available as they are ready.
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> At this point, I believe the plan is to follow up soon with
>>>> a 1.9 release.
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> -Dan
>>>> >> > >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:36 AM Robert Stupp <
>>>> sn...@snazy.de> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Hey,
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> IMHO 1.8 should definitely include the Auth-Manager work,
>>>> which tackles
>>>> >> > >>> >>> actual bugs in the Iceberg code base wrt OAuth
>>>> implementation. That work
>>>> >> > >>> >>> was originally intended to go into 1.7 and now it shall be
>>>> delayed again
>>>> >> > >>> >>> for 1.9. The PR was originally opened in July 2024, about
>>>> half a year
>>>> >> > >>> >>> ago and is still getting reviewed. In the meantime there
>>>> were more than
>>>> >> > >>> >>> 600 other PRs that got reviewed and merged.
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> The overall agreement around spring 2024, please correct
>>>> me if I am
>>>> >> > >>> >>> wrong, was the whole REST/OAuth area needs to be improved,
>>>> and the oauth
>>>> >> > >>> >>> endpoint removed entirely.
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Generally speaking, and I know I'm not alone, getting
>>>> reviews from
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committers is extremely hard. A lot of issues and
>>>> PRs just get
>>>> >> > >>> >>> closed (by that stale bot) without having gotten _any_
>>>> attention from an
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committer. This is not a new situation but going
>>>> on for a long
>>>> >> > >>> >>> time. I have been talking to two Iceberg PMC members in
>>>> person many
>>>> >> > >>> >>> months ago that this is a very disappointing situation
>>>> that needs to be
>>>> >> > >>> >>> fixed. The reply was always "we are already working on it"
>>>> - but at
>>>> >> > >>> >>> least from my personal POV the situation did not improve.
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Robert
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> On 16.01.25 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Hi folks,
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Following the Community Meeting yesterday, I would like
>>>> to propose the
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > following plan regarding releases:
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 0. As a prerequisite to any release (1.7.2, 1.8.0,
>>>> 1.9.0), as said by
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Ryan, we have to double check the NOTICE/LICENSE.
>>>> Interestingly, I
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > discussed this point with Fokko at the beginning of this
>>>> week, because
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > I have some doubts about LICENSE/NOTICE content in the
>>>> "uber" jar
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > artifacts where we shade dependencies. I'm doing a
>>>> complete pass on
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > all artifacts in 1.7.2-SNAPSHOT and 1.8.0-SNAPSHOT. I
>>>> should have a
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > complete analysis by tomorrow. This is potentially a
>>>> blocker for
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > release votes.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1. As soon as (0) is done, 1.7.2 can be submitted to
>>>> vote. I will work
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > with Fokko on this one.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 2. We plan to do 1.8.0 in a couple of weeks (Amogh is
>>>> the release
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > manager). Due to still some WIP, we "revisited" the
>>>> 1.8.0 release
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > content: for instance, as best effort, we wanted to
>>>> include REST Auth
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Manager improvement (OAuth2 Manager) but we preferred to
>>>> postpone to
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0. That's totally fine to me, however, I would
>>>> propose to strongly
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > focus on pending PRs for 1.9.0. Imho, we should "target"
>>>> (again as
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > clear best effort) on variant, partition stats and Auth
>>>> Manager.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 3. Assuming 1.8.0 will be released at the end of
>>>> Jan/beginning of Feb,
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > according to our "release cadence", what do you think
>>>> about planning
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0 in April ? Again with the main targets listed in
>>>> (2).
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > I tried to sum up what we discussed yesterday :)
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Thoughts ?
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > Regards
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > JB
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Hi folks,
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> We did Apache Iceberg 1.7.0 release on Nov 8, 2024. If
>>>> we want to keep
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> our release "pace", 1.8.0 should be released around mid
>>>> February.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> I think we already have a good "train" of merged PRs
>>>> (or should be
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> merged soon): default values, REST auth improvements,
>>>> dependencies
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> updates, etc.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> WDYT about 1.8.0 mid Feb ? If so, I propose we update
>>>> GitHub Issues
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> and PRs we would like to "target" to 1.8.0.
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Thoughts ?
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> Regards
>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> JB
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>> >> > >>> >>> --
>>>> >> > >>> >>> Robert Stupp
>>>> >> > >>> >>> @snazy
>>>> >> > >>> >>>
>>>>
>>>

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