There's still https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/11216 under 1.8.0
milestone.
Do we want to include it?

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 3:01 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:

> Thanks Amogh
>
> I updated the PR with some cleanups.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 4:04 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks JB I left a review, it'll be good to get another set of eyes on
> it! Thank you for surfacing and fixing these issues, it's very appreciated.
> >
> > Amogh Jahagirdar
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 12:50 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the PR: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12195 for ref.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 5:48 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Amogh,
> >> >
> >> > I found issues in the LICENSE/NOTICE from kafka-connect-runtime
> >> > distribution (what's in the distribution zip). AFAIR, we plan to
> >> > distribute this distribution, so it should be fixed.
> >> > I will open a PR about that today.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry about that.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > JB
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:35 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hey all,
> >> > >
> >> > > An update, the final License/Notice release blockers are merged
> (big thanks to JB, and Ryan/Fokko for helping review)! I'm in transit at
> the moment, but once I get to a place with stable wifi I will cut a release
> candidate.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Amogh Jahagirdar
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 2:23 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Agreed, I wouldn't be opposed to looking into approaches to make
> release times more predictable. At the same time, I'd advocate that in the
> community, that anyone can propose a release at any point in time. Of
> course, we can discuss as a community and make sure there's a reasonable
> changeset, as well as focus review time on PRs which are close to being
> ready for that release.
> >> > >> To some degree this contradicts having a predictable release
> schedule, but I feel like we can really just have a hybrid "Periodic
> release + arbitrary off-cycle release" approach and things won't get too
> crazy. It's a way to get the best of both frequency of release and user
> expectations on release times.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> An update on 1.8 to the community, we're working on updating
> LICENSE/NOTICE files in the AWS/GCP/Azure bundles, thank you JB for driving
> that. It's something we need to get in for the release. Once that's in, I
> will cut the RC.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Amogh Jahagirdar
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:16 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Hi Amogh,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks !
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I agree we should have more frequent releases, but also more
> >> > >>> "predictable" release time and give visibility to the community
> >> > >>> (especially users).
> >> > >>> Some ASF projects are providing "tables" with release plans:
> >> > >>> - https://camel.apache.org/download/
> >> > >>> - https://karaf.apache.org/download.html
> >> > >>> - https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/download/
> >> > >>> - ...
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Maybe we can provide something similar ?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks !
> >> > >>> Regards
> >> > >>> JB
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 1:07 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <
> 2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Hey all,
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Just following up here with a bit of a status update, so in the
> past week or so, items in the 1.8 release milestone have been closing out.
> >> > >>> > I'm aiming to cut a release next Tuesday, Jan 28.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > I'd like to reiterate that for any changes that don't make the
> 1.8 release, we can do a fast follow 1.9 release, and from the last
> community sync that seems to be the direction.
> >> > >>> > In this particular case, the 1.8 release is a bit earlier than
> our typical release cadence and with the 1.9 being a fast follow on, I
> think we're well on track.
> >> > >>> > Please add the proposed changes to the 1.9 milestone so folks
> can review ahead of time!
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > In general, I'd encourage more frequent releases, changes which
> are ready can just go out and with the smaller diff it reduces the risks
> that exist with larger updates.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Thanks,
> >> > >>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:05 AM Daniel Weeks <
> dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> Robert,
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> I hear your frustration with the progress on the Auth Manager
> work, but I believe everyone recognizes that this was a large refactor
> further complicated by the need to preserve backward compatibility and
> handling deprecations appropriately.  This work has gone through many
> iterations as we explored how to make the changes cleanly.  Eventually the
> scale of the change led to breaking up the PR for closer review, which I
> believe was the right decision because we identified multiple issues after
> taking that step.  That may have slowed down progress, but a lot of hours
> have gone into discussing, reviewing, and validating the work in this area.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> As a project, we have leaned away from gating releases on
> specific features because it leads to slower release cycles and prevents
> other features that are ready from going out.  We also don't want to rush
> features just to hit a release target, but rather release more frequently
> to make changes available as they are ready.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> At this point, I believe the plan is to follow up soon with a
> 1.9 release.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> -Dan
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:36 AM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de>
> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Hey,
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> IMHO 1.8 should definitely include the Auth-Manager work,
> which tackles
> >> > >>> >>> actual bugs in the Iceberg code base wrt OAuth
> implementation. That work
> >> > >>> >>> was originally intended to go into 1.7 and now it shall be
> delayed again
> >> > >>> >>> for 1.9. The PR was originally opened in July 2024, about
> half a year
> >> > >>> >>> ago and is still getting reviewed. In the meantime there were
> more than
> >> > >>> >>> 600 other PRs that got reviewed and merged.
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> The overall agreement around spring 2024, please correct me
> if I am
> >> > >>> >>> wrong, was the whole REST/OAuth area needs to be improved,
> and the oauth
> >> > >>> >>> endpoint removed entirely.
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Generally speaking, and I know I'm not alone, getting reviews
> from
> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committers is extremely hard. A lot of issues and PRs
> just get
> >> > >>> >>> closed (by that stale bot) without having gotten _any_
> attention from an
> >> > >>> >>> Iceberg committer. This is not a new situation but going on
> for a long
> >> > >>> >>> time. I have been talking to two Iceberg PMC members in
> person many
> >> > >>> >>> months ago that this is a very disappointing situation that
> needs to be
> >> > >>> >>> fixed. The reply was always "we are already working on it" -
> but at
> >> > >>> >>> least from my personal POV the situation did not improve.
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Robert
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> On 16.01.25 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >> > >>> >>> > Hi folks,
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > Following the Community Meeting yesterday, I would like to
> propose the
> >> > >>> >>> > following plan regarding releases:
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > 0. As a prerequisite to any release (1.7.2, 1.8.0, 1.9.0),
> as said by
> >> > >>> >>> > Ryan, we have to double check the NOTICE/LICENSE.
> Interestingly, I
> >> > >>> >>> > discussed this point with Fokko at the beginning of this
> week, because
> >> > >>> >>> > I have some doubts about LICENSE/NOTICE content in the
> "uber" jar
> >> > >>> >>> > artifacts where we shade dependencies. I'm doing a complete
> pass on
> >> > >>> >>> > all artifacts in 1.7.2-SNAPSHOT and 1.8.0-SNAPSHOT. I
> should have a
> >> > >>> >>> > complete analysis by tomorrow. This is potentially a
> blocker for
> >> > >>> >>> > release votes.
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > 1. As soon as (0) is done, 1.7.2 can be submitted to vote.
> I will work
> >> > >>> >>> > with Fokko on this one.
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > 2. We plan to do 1.8.0 in a couple of weeks (Amogh is the
> release
> >> > >>> >>> > manager). Due to still some WIP, we "revisited" the 1.8.0
> release
> >> > >>> >>> > content: for instance, as best effort, we wanted to include
> REST Auth
> >> > >>> >>> > Manager improvement (OAuth2 Manager) but we preferred to
> postpone to
> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0. That's totally fine to me, however, I would propose
> to strongly
> >> > >>> >>> > focus on pending PRs for 1.9.0. Imho, we should "target"
> (again as
> >> > >>> >>> > clear best effort) on variant, partition stats and Auth
> Manager.
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > 3. Assuming 1.8.0 will be released at the end of
> Jan/beginning of Feb,
> >> > >>> >>> > according to our "release cadence", what do you think about
> planning
> >> > >>> >>> > 1.9.0 in April ? Again with the main targets listed in (2).
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > I tried to sum up what we discussed yesterday :)
> >> > >>> >>> > Thoughts ?
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > Regards
> >> > >>> >>> > JB
> >> > >>> >>> >
> >> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>> >> Hi folks,
> >> > >>> >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> >> We did Apache Iceberg 1.7.0 release on Nov 8, 2024. If we
> want to keep
> >> > >>> >>> >> our release "pace", 1.8.0 should be released around mid
> February.
> >> > >>> >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> >> I think we already have a good "train" of merged PRs (or
> should be
> >> > >>> >>> >> merged soon): default values, REST auth improvements,
> dependencies
> >> > >>> >>> >> updates, etc.
> >> > >>> >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> >> WDYT about 1.8.0 mid Feb ? If so, I propose we update
> GitHub Issues
> >> > >>> >>> >> and PRs we would like to "target" to 1.8.0.
> >> > >>> >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> >> Thoughts ?
> >> > >>> >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> >> Regards
> >> > >>> >>> >> JB
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> --
> >> > >>> >>> Robert Stupp
> >> > >>> >>> @snazy
> >> > >>> >>>
>

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