Here's the PR: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/12195 for ref.

Regards
JB

On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 5:48 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Amogh,
>
> I found issues in the LICENSE/NOTICE from kafka-connect-runtime
> distribution (what's in the distribution zip). AFAIR, we plan to
> distribute this distribution, so it should be fixed.
> I will open a PR about that today.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:35 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > An update, the final License/Notice release blockers are merged (big thanks 
> > to JB, and Ryan/Fokko for helping review)! I'm in transit at the moment, 
> > but once I get to a place with stable wifi I will cut a release candidate.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amogh Jahagirdar
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 2:23 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Agreed, I wouldn't be opposed to looking into approaches to make release 
> >> times more predictable. At the same time, I'd advocate that in the 
> >> community, that anyone can propose a release at any point in time. Of 
> >> course, we can discuss as a community and make sure there's a reasonable 
> >> changeset, as well as focus review time on PRs which are close to being 
> >> ready for that release.
> >> To some degree this contradicts having a predictable release schedule, but 
> >> I feel like we can really just have a hybrid "Periodic release + arbitrary 
> >> off-cycle release" approach and things won't get too crazy. It's a way to 
> >> get the best of both frequency of release and user expectations on release 
> >> times.
> >>
> >> An update on 1.8 to the community, we're working on updating 
> >> LICENSE/NOTICE files in the AWS/GCP/Azure bundles, thank you JB for 
> >> driving that. It's something we need to get in for the release. Once 
> >> that's in, I will cut the RC.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Amogh Jahagirdar
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:16 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Amogh,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks !
> >>>
> >>> I agree we should have more frequent releases, but also more
> >>> "predictable" release time and give visibility to the community
> >>> (especially users).
> >>> Some ASF projects are providing "tables" with release plans:
> >>> - https://camel.apache.org/download/
> >>> - https://karaf.apache.org/download.html
> >>> - https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/download/
> >>> - ...
> >>>
> >>> Maybe we can provide something similar ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks !
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 1:07 AM Amogh Jahagirdar <2am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hey all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Just following up here with a bit of a status update, so in the past 
> >>> > week or so, items in the 1.8 release milestone have been closing out.
> >>> > I'm aiming to cut a release next Tuesday, Jan 28.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'd like to reiterate that for any changes that don't make the 1.8 
> >>> > release, we can do a fast follow 1.9 release, and from the last 
> >>> > community sync that seems to be the direction.
> >>> > In this particular case, the 1.8 release is a bit earlier than our 
> >>> > typical release cadence and with the 1.9 being a fast follow on, I 
> >>> > think we're well on track.
> >>> > Please add the proposed changes to the 1.9 milestone so folks can 
> >>> > review ahead of time!
> >>> >
> >>> > In general, I'd encourage more frequent releases, changes which are 
> >>> > ready can just go out and with the smaller diff it reduces the risks 
> >>> > that exist with larger updates.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Amogh Jahagirdar
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 10:05 AM Daniel Weeks <dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Robert,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I hear your frustration with the progress on the Auth Manager work, 
> >>> >> but I believe everyone recognizes that this was a large refactor 
> >>> >> further complicated by the need to preserve backward compatibility and 
> >>> >> handling deprecations appropriately.  This work has gone through many 
> >>> >> iterations as we explored how to make the changes cleanly.  Eventually 
> >>> >> the scale of the change led to breaking up the PR for closer review, 
> >>> >> which I believe was the right decision because we identified multiple 
> >>> >> issues after taking that step.  That may have slowed down progress, 
> >>> >> but a lot of hours have gone into discussing, reviewing, and 
> >>> >> validating the work in this area.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As a project, we have leaned away from gating releases on specific 
> >>> >> features because it leads to slower release cycles and prevents other 
> >>> >> features that are ready from going out.  We also don't want to rush 
> >>> >> features just to hit a release target, but rather release more 
> >>> >> frequently to make changes available as they are ready.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> At this point, I believe the plan is to follow up soon with a 1.9 
> >>> >> release.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Dan
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:36 AM Robert Stupp <sn...@snazy.de> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hey,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> IMHO 1.8 should definitely include the Auth-Manager work, which 
> >>> >>> tackles
> >>> >>> actual bugs in the Iceberg code base wrt OAuth implementation. That 
> >>> >>> work
> >>> >>> was originally intended to go into 1.7 and now it shall be delayed 
> >>> >>> again
> >>> >>> for 1.9. The PR was originally opened in July 2024, about half a year
> >>> >>> ago and is still getting reviewed. In the meantime there were more 
> >>> >>> than
> >>> >>> 600 other PRs that got reviewed and merged.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The overall agreement around spring 2024, please correct me if I am
> >>> >>> wrong, was the whole REST/OAuth area needs to be improved, and the 
> >>> >>> oauth
> >>> >>> endpoint removed entirely.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Generally speaking, and I know I'm not alone, getting reviews from
> >>> >>> Iceberg committers is extremely hard. A lot of issues and PRs just get
> >>> >>> closed (by that stale bot) without having gotten _any_ attention from 
> >>> >>> an
> >>> >>> Iceberg committer. This is not a new situation but going on for a long
> >>> >>> time. I have been talking to two Iceberg PMC members in person many
> >>> >>> months ago that this is a very disappointing situation that needs to 
> >>> >>> be
> >>> >>> fixed. The reply was always "we are already working on it" - but at
> >>> >>> least from my personal POV the situation did not improve.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 16.01.25 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>> >>> > Hi folks,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Following the Community Meeting yesterday, I would like to propose 
> >>> >>> > the
> >>> >>> > following plan regarding releases:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 0. As a prerequisite to any release (1.7.2, 1.8.0, 1.9.0), as said 
> >>> >>> > by
> >>> >>> > Ryan, we have to double check the NOTICE/LICENSE. Interestingly, I
> >>> >>> > discussed this point with Fokko at the beginning of this week, 
> >>> >>> > because
> >>> >>> > I have some doubts about LICENSE/NOTICE content in the "uber" jar
> >>> >>> > artifacts where we shade dependencies. I'm doing a complete pass on
> >>> >>> > all artifacts in 1.7.2-SNAPSHOT and 1.8.0-SNAPSHOT. I should have a
> >>> >>> > complete analysis by tomorrow. This is potentially a blocker for
> >>> >>> > release votes.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 1. As soon as (0) is done, 1.7.2 can be submitted to vote. I will 
> >>> >>> > work
> >>> >>> > with Fokko on this one.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 2. We plan to do 1.8.0 in a couple of weeks (Amogh is the release
> >>> >>> > manager). Due to still some WIP, we "revisited" the 1.8.0 release
> >>> >>> > content: for instance, as best effort, we wanted to include REST 
> >>> >>> > Auth
> >>> >>> > Manager improvement (OAuth2 Manager) but we preferred to postpone to
> >>> >>> > 1.9.0. That's totally fine to me, however, I would propose to 
> >>> >>> > strongly
> >>> >>> > focus on pending PRs for 1.9.0. Imho, we should "target" (again as
> >>> >>> > clear best effort) on variant, partition stats and Auth Manager.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > 3. Assuming 1.8.0 will be released at the end of Jan/beginning of 
> >>> >>> > Feb,
> >>> >>> > according to our "release cadence", what do you think about planning
> >>> >>> > 1.9.0 in April ? Again with the main targets listed in (2).
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I tried to sum up what we discussed yesterday :)
> >>> >>> > Thoughts ?
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Regards
> >>> >>> > JB
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> >>> >>> > <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> >>> >>> >> Hi folks,
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> We did Apache Iceberg 1.7.0 release on Nov 8, 2024. If we want to 
> >>> >>> >> keep
> >>> >>> >> our release "pace", 1.8.0 should be released around mid February.
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> I think we already have a good "train" of merged PRs (or should be
> >>> >>> >> merged soon): default values, REST auth improvements, dependencies
> >>> >>> >> updates, etc.
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> WDYT about 1.8.0 mid Feb ? If so, I propose we update GitHub Issues
> >>> >>> >> and PRs we would like to "target" to 1.8.0.
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Thoughts ?
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Regards
> >>> >>> >> JB
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> --
> >>> >>> Robert Stupp
> >>> >>> @snazy
> >>> >>>

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