Hi Team,

Just to clarify. Hive 3 officially doesn't support Java 11, and there are
no plans to release a new Hive 3 version with support.
By "accident" the Hive Metastore tests are running with Hive 3 with Java
11, but the Hive runtime tests are not running (Starting the HiveServer
fails, so no tests are running)
Currently we don't know how Hive 4 is working from the Iceberg repo (we
know that the Hive community is using Iceberg 1.6.1, so this shouldn't be a
big issue)

Since Hive 3 is not officially supported, I also suggest moving forward,
and start using Hive 4. But we need to run our tests with Hive 4 first
before we change the documentation.

Thanks,
Peter

Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. nov. 21.,
Cs, 14:21):

> Hi Manu
>
> It sounds like a plan. I think it makes sense to drop Hive 2 & 3 and
> encourage use of Hive 4 (mostly documentation task).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 7:19 AM Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, let me add this option
> >
> > D. Drop Hive 2 & 3 support and suggest to use built-in Iceberg support
> of Hive 4
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 2:00 PM Cheng Pan <pan3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hive 4 brings built-in support for Iceberg format, duplicated
> implementation in both sides look a redundant stuff.
> >>
> >> As Hive 2 and 3 do not support Java 11+, and Iceberg 1.8 requires Java
> 11+, the combination is invalid. How about simply dropping support for Hive
> 2&3 and suggesting the Hive user upgrade Hive 4 to gain the built-in
> Iceberg support?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Cheng Pan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 20, 2024, at 12:47, Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We previously reached consensus[1] to deprecate Hive 2 in 1.7 and drop
> in 1.8. However, when working on the removal PR[2], multiple tests failed
> in Hive 3 due to not supporting JDK11[3]. The fix has been back-ported to
> branch-3.1[4] but not released yet. As announced on Hive website, Hive 3.x
> is declared as End of Life so there will be no more Hive 3 release.
> Peter(@pvary) suggested upgrading to Hive 4 instead. On the other hand,
> iceberg-hive3 tests are already broken after we dropped JDK 8 support. It's
> not caught previously due to tests not running[6].
> >>
> >> Based on the current situation, here are the options I can think of to
> move forward
> >>
> >> A. Continue to remove Hive 2 in the current PR and upgrade to Hive 4 in
> a separate PR.
> >> B. Hold on removing Hive 2 until we upgrade to Hive 4
> >> C. Add source dependency[7] on Hive branch-3.1 or make a Hive 3.1
> release from a forked repo.
> >>
> >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/zg14b8cor4lnbyd3t4n1297y2bwb1fsg
> >> 2. https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/10996
> >> 3. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-21584
> >> 4. https://github.com/apache/hive/commits/branch-3.1/
> >> 5. https://hive.apache.org/general/downloads/
> >> 6. https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/11584
> >> 7. https://blog.gradle.org/introducing-source-dependencies
> >>
> >> Which option do you prefer? Any better alternative?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Manu
> >>
> >>
>

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