I agree with Fokko, I believe the added value would be if the user mailing
list becomes an extension of the Slack channel that archives our
discussions there and makes them searchable to Google, ideally in a decent
format though I am nervous on how stack traces and other types of media
might lose their structure based on the limitations of the mailing server.

I’m reserving my vote until we have some new info from JB, who is busy with
the JDBC vote support so I would suggest we hold off until then.

Whether or not we have the Slack stuff, I think we should constantly
evaluate the state of support and of adding or removing channels makes
sense.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 4:09 AM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote:

> ±0 for having a user mailing list.
>
> I don't believe that having more channels will lead to better support. I
> agree that the archiving capabilities of Slack are limited, and the search
> is sub-optimal. But we should also make sure that the questions asked are
> also integrated into the documentation. The new website will also have
> search capabilities, which will also make the content easier to find.
>
> I'm not against it if people feel like there is added value in it, just
> want to make sure that we as a community make sure that all the channels
> are being monitored if we go down that route. And how the Slackbot would
> synchronize the two channels.
>
> Kind regards,
> Fokko
>
> Op di 30 jan 2024 om 23:55 schreef Jack Ye <yezhao...@gmail.com>:
>
>> +1 for having a user mailing list.
>>
>> Do we envision the slack bot to be used for people in slack to
>> participate in user list conversations, or the other way around, or both?
>>
>> Allowing people in slack to participate in user list conversations seems
>> pretty achievable. Allowing people in the user list to participate in slack
>> conversations means to forward all conversations in slack to the user list
>> and might be quite noisy. But the advantage is that people would be able to
>> search for those Slack questions and answers on the internet. Maybe we can
>> consider a separated "slack" mailing list for that purpose.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jack Ye
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 8:16 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> AFAIR, some ASF projects are using slackbot to receive users requests
>>> from the mailing list and can send messages to the mailing list.
>>>
>>> Let me do a quick research and get back to you.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:14 PM Brian Olsen <bitsondata...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I do like the idea of making the Slack threads available through the
>>> mailing list. Is there a slack bot you have in mind? How would the threads
>>> appear in the mailing list?
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 7:13 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi guys,
>>> >>
>>> >> If we have a few user questions on the dev mailing list, we have quite
>>> >> a number on Slack.
>>> >> It's completely fine but not easy to search the questions and find the
>>> >> concrete answer.
>>> >>
>>> >> As most other Apache projects do, I propose to create a user mailing
>>> >> list to invite people to ask questions and request help.
>>> >> This mailing list can be browsed and searched on
>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/ and can be moderated.
>>> >> We can use slackbot to create a "bridge" between slack and the user
>>> >> mailing list.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thoughts ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >> JB
>>>
>>

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