Thanks a lot.

It seems that a few people are supportive of the idea of moving the feature
freeze to Friday.
I would actually propose to make it *Sunday night* then. We'll then create
the first release candidate on Monday morning, November 2nd.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:27 PM Danny Chan <yuzhao....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Per FLIP-145, we have many runtime operators to implement and bridge it
> with the planner.
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2020年10月19日 +0800 PM6:59,Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>,写道:
> > Thank you for your responses so far.
> >
> > @Kurt, Jingsong, Danny: Which JIRAs/FLIPs are going to benefit from the
> > extension?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:45 PM Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > @Robert Your (and Dian's) suggestions sound good to me! I like keeping
> > > to master frozen for a while since it will prevent a lot of duplicate
> > > merging efforts.
> > >
> > > Regarding the date: I'm fine with the proposed date but I can also see
> > > that extending it to the end of the week could be helpful.
> > >
> > > Aljoscha
> > >
> > > On 19.10.20 12:24, Danny Chan wrote:
> > > > +1 for Kurt suggestion, there are many features for SQL yet, 2 more
> days
> > > are valuable.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Danny Chan
> > > > 在 2020年10月19日 +0800 PM6:22,Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com>,写道:
> > > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your detailed explanation.
> > > > >
> > > > > At present, we are preparing or participating in Flink forward, so
> +1
> > > for
> > > > > appropriate extension of deadline.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Jingsong
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:36 PM Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we change the freeze date to October 30th (Friday next
> week)? It
> > > would
> > > > > > be helpful
> > > > > > for us if we have 2 more days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Kurt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Robert Metzger <
> rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dian and I would like to discuss a few items regarding the
> upcoming
> > > Flink
> > > > > > > 1.12 feature freeze:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *A) Exact feature freeze day*
> > > > > > > So far, we've always said "end of October
> > > > > > > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/1.12+Release>" for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > freeze. We propose (end of day CEST) October 28th (Wednesday
> next
> > > week)
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > the feature freeze time.
> > > > > > > We want to create RC0 on the day after the feature freeze, to
> make
> > > sure
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > RC creation process is running smoothly, and to have a common
> testing
> > > > > > > reference point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *B) What does feature freeze mean?*After the feature freeze,
> no new
> > > > > > > features are allowed to be merged to master. Only bug fixes and
> > > > > > > documentation improvements.
> > > > > > > The release managers will revert new feature commits after the
> feature
> > > > > > > freeze.
> > > > > > > Rational: The goal of the feature freeze phase is to improve
> the
> > > system
> > > > > > > stability by addressing known bugs. New features tend to
> introduce new
> > > > > > > instabilities, which would prolong the release process.
> > > > > > > If you need to merge a new feature after the freeze, please
> open a
> > > > > > > discussion on the dev@ list. If there are no objections by a
> PMC
> > > member
> > > > > > > within 48 (workday)hours, the feature can be merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *C) When to cut the "release-1.12" branch off master?*
> > > > > > > In the last feature freeze, we had a pretty lengthy phase of
> > > maintaining
> > > > > > > the "master" and "release-1.11" branches with the same fixes.
> > > Therefore,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > would like to propose an adjustment to the release process: We
> will
> > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > stabilization phase on master, between the feature freeze and
> the
> > > branch
> > > > > > > cut.
> > > > > > > I expect this stabilization phase to last between 1 and 3
> weeks,
> > > > > > depending
> > > > > > > on the issues we find. Once all blockers are resolved, and no
> new
> > > > > > blockers
> > > > > > > are surfacing, we can cut off the "release-1.12" branch and
> finalize
> > > the
> > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > Is anybody in the community waiting for the cut off to happen
> sooner
> > > so
> > > > > > > that they can merge a big feature to Flink 1.13 ? (if that
> would be
> > > the
> > > > > > > case, then we can not have a stabilization phase)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know what you think!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Dian and Robert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best, Jingsong Lee
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>

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