I don't think that a post-release step makes sense since the release manager of release X won't necessarily be involved in the high level planning of the release X+1.
Cheers, Till On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > Making the release managers responsible for keeping the roadmap up to date > sounds like a good idea to me! > > We could add this to the "Creating a Flink Release" Wiki page as a > post-release step. > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:15 AM Marta Paes Moreira <ma...@ververica.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks for bringing this up, Robert. > > > > More than updating the roadmap, it would be valuable to discuss how to > make > > this update systematic. I took care of the last update back in September > > and - to be honest - the effort for someone who is not involved in > release > > planning (or at least for me) feels unnecessarily high. > > > > One way to ensure that the roadmap is kept fresh could be to make the > > update part of the release kick-off (for example, as part of the > > responsibilities of the release managers). > > > > What do you think? > > > > Marta > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:35 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hey all, > > > The roadmap has been updated last in September 2019. There is quite a > bit > > > of outdated information on that page. > > > > > > Is there a volunteer who wants to create a first draft for an updated > > > version? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Nice, thanks! Looking forward to the PR > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:08 AM Marta Paes Moreira < > > ma...@ververica.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hey, Robert. > > > >> > > > >> Updating the roadmap is something I can work on (and also have on my > > > >> radar, > > > >> moving forward). Already had a quick word with Stephan and he's > > > available > > > >> to provide support, if needed. > > > >> > > > >> Marta > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 4:46 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I could help with that. > > > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:36 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Flink 1.9 is feature freezed and almost released. > > > >> > > I guess it makes sense to update the roadmap on the website > again. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Who feels like having a good overview of what's coming up? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Yes, that's a very good proposal Jark. > > > >> > > > +1 > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Best, Fabian > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 16:33 Uhr schrieb Till Rohrmann < > > > >> > > > trohrm...@apache.org > > > >> > > > >: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I think this is a good idea Jark. Putting the last update > date > > > on > > > >> the > > > >> > > > > roadmap would also force us to regularly update it. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > Till > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:14 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi, > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > One suggestion for the roadmap: > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Shall we add a `latest-update-time` to the top of Roadmap > > > page? > > > >> So > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > > > > users can know this is a up-to-date Roadmap. > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 04:49, Bowen Li < > bowenl...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > +1 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:41 PM jincheng sun < > > > >> > > > > sunjincheng...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi Jeff&Fabian, > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have open the PR about add Python Table API section > to > > > the > > > >> > > > > roadmap. I > > > >> > > > > > > > appreciate if you have time to look at it. :) > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/204 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards, > > > >> > > > > > > > Jincheng > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > jincheng sun <sunjincheng...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一 > > > >> > 下午11:12写道： > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sure, I will do it！I think the python table api info > > > >> should > > > >> > in > > > >> > > > the > > > >> > > > > > > > > roadmap! Thank you @Jeff @Fabian > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>于2019年4月29日 > > 周一23:05写道： > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Great, thanks Jeff and Timo! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> @Jincheng do you want to write a paragraph about > the > > > >> Python > > > >> > > > effort > > > >> > > > > > and > > > >> > > > > > > > >> open a PR for it? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I'll remove the issue about Hadoop convenience > builds > > > >> > > > > (FLINK-11266). > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Best, Fabian > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Jeff > > Zhang < > > > >> > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > > >: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> jincheng(cc) is driving the python effort, I think > > he > > > >> can > > > >> > > help > > > >> > > > to > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> prepare it. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一 > > > >> 下午10:15写道： > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi everyone, > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Since we had no more comments on this thread, I > > think > > > >> we > > > >> > > > proceed > > > >> > > > > > to > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> update the roadmap. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> @Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> I agree, we > should > > > add > > > >> the > > > >> > > > > Python > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> efforts to the roadmap. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Do you want to prepare a short paragraph that we > > can > > > >> add > > > >> > to > > > >> > > > the > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> document? > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Best, Fabian > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Am Mi., 17. Apr. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Jeff > > > Zhang < > > > >> > > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> >: > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Fabian, > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> One thing missing is python api and python udf, > we > > > >> > already > > > >> > > > > > > discussed > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it in > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> community, and it is very close to reach > > consensus. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月17日周三 > > > >> > 下午7:51写道： > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Hi everyone, > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > We recently added a roadmap to our project > > website > > > >> [1] > > > >> > > and > > > >> > > > > > > decided > > > >> > > > > > > > to > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > update it after every release. Flink 1.8.0 was > > > >> > released a > > > >> > > > few > > > >> > > > > > > days > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> ago, so > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I think it we should check and remove from the > > > >> roadmap > > > >> > > what > > > >> > > > > was > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> achieved so > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > far and add features / improvements that we > plan > > > for > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > > future. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I had a look at the roadmap and found that > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > We are changing the build setup to not > bundle > > > >> Hadoop > > > >> > by > > > >> > > > > > > default, > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> but > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > rather offer pre-packaged > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > Hadoop libraries for the use with Yarn, > HDFS, > > > >> etc. as > > > >> > > > > > > convenience > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > downloads FLINK-11266 < > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-11266 > > >. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > was implemented for 1.8.0 and should be > removed > > > from > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > > roadmap. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > All other issues are still ongoing efforts. > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Are there any other efforts that we want to > put > > on > > > >> the > > > >> > > > > roadmap? > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Best, Fabian > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Best Regards > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Jeff Zhang > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Best Regards > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Jeff Zhang > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
