Thanks for bringing this up, Robert.

More than updating the roadmap, it would be valuable to discuss how to make
this update systematic. I took care of the last update back in September
and - to be honest - the effort for someone who is not involved in release
planning (or at least for me) feels unnecessarily high.

One way to ensure that the roadmap is kept fresh could be to make the
update part of the release kick-off (for example, as part of the
responsibilities of the release managers).

What do you think?

Marta

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:35 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hey all,
> The roadmap has been updated last in September 2019. There is quite a bit
> of outdated information on that page.
>
> Is there a volunteer who wants to create a first draft for an updated
> version?
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Nice, thanks! Looking forward to the PR
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:08 AM Marta Paes Moreira <ma...@ververica.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey, Robert.
> >>
> >> Updating the roadmap is something I can work on (and also have on my
> >> radar,
> >> moving forward). Already had a quick word with Stephan and he's
> available
> >> to provide support, if needed.
> >>
> >> Marta
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 4:46 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I could help with that.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:36 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Flink 1.9 is feature freezed and almost released.
> >> > > I guess it makes sense to update the roadmap on the website again.
> >> > >
> >> > > Who feels like having a good overview of what's coming up?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Yes, that's a very good proposal Jark.
> >> > > > +1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best, Fabian
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 16:33 Uhr schrieb Till Rohrmann <
> >> > > > trohrm...@apache.org
> >> > > > >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I think this is a good idea Jark. Putting the last update date
> on
> >> the
> >> > > > > roadmap would also force us to regularly update it.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > Till
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:14 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > One suggestion for the roadmap:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Shall we add a `latest-update-time` to the top of Roadmap
> page?
> >> So
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > users can know this is a up-to-date Roadmap.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 04:49, Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > +1
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:41 PM jincheng sun <
> >> > > > > sunjincheng...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Hi Jeff&Fabian,
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I have open the PR about add Python Table API section to
> the
> >> > > > > roadmap. I
> >> > > > > > > > appreciate if you have time to look at it. :)
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/204
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > > > Jincheng
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > jincheng sun <sunjincheng...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一
> >> > 下午11:12写道:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Sure, I will do it!I think the python table api info
> >> should
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >  roadmap! Thank you @Jeff @Fabian
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>于2019年4月29日 周一23:05写道:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >> Great, thanks Jeff and Timo!
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > >> @Jincheng do you want to write a paragraph about the
> >> Python
> >> > > > effort
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >> open a PR for it?
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I'll remove the issue about Hadoop convenience builds
> >> > > > > (FLINK-11266).
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > >> Best, Fabian
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > >> Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Jeff Zhang <
> >> > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> jincheng(cc) is driving the python effort, I think he
> >> can
> >> > > help
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > >>> prepare it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一
> >> 下午10:15写道:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi everyone,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Since we had no more comments on this thread, I think
> >> we
> >> > > > proceed
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> update the roadmap.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> @Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> I agree, we should
> add
> >> the
> >> > > > > Python
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> efforts to the roadmap.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Do you want to prepare a short paragraph that we can
> >> add
> >> > to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> document?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Best, Fabian
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Am Mi., 17. Apr. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Jeff
> Zhang <
> >> > > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Fabian,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> One thing missing is python api and python udf, we
> >> > already
> >> > > > > > > discussed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> community, and it is very close to reach consensus.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月17日周三
> >> > 下午7:51写道:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Hi everyone,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > We recently added a roadmap to our project website
> >> [1]
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > decided
> >> > > > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > update it after every release. Flink 1.8.0 was
> >> > released a
> >> > > > few
> >> > > > > > > days
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> ago, so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I think it we should check and remove from the
> >> roadmap
> >> > > what
> >> > > > > was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> achieved so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > far and add features / improvements that we plan
> for
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > future.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I had a look at the roadmap and found that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > We are changing the build setup to not bundle
> >> Hadoop
> >> > by
> >> > > > > > > default,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > rather offer pre-packaged
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > Hadoop libraries for the use with Yarn, HDFS,
> >> etc. as
> >> > > > > > > convenience
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > downloads FLINK-11266 <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-11266>.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > was implemented for 1.8.0 and should be removed
> from
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > roadmap.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > All other issues are still ongoing efforts.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Are there any other efforts that we want to put on
> >> the
> >> > > > > roadmap?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Best, Fabian
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> --
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Best Regards
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Jeff Zhang
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> --
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Best Regards
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Jeff Zhang
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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