Making the release managers responsible for keeping the roadmap up to date
sounds like a good idea to me!

We could add this to the "Creating a Flink Release" Wiki page as a
post-release step.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:15 AM Marta Paes Moreira <ma...@ververica.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for bringing this up, Robert.
>
> More than updating the roadmap, it would be valuable to discuss how to make
> this update systematic. I took care of the last update back in September
> and - to be honest - the effort for someone who is not involved in release
> planning (or at least for me) feels unnecessarily high.
>
> One way to ensure that the roadmap is kept fresh could be to make the
> update part of the release kick-off (for example, as part of the
> responsibilities of the release managers).
>
> What do you think?
>
> Marta
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:35 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> > The roadmap has been updated last in September 2019. There is quite a bit
> > of outdated information on that page.
> >
> > Is there a volunteer who wants to create a first draft for an updated
> > version?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nice, thanks! Looking forward to the PR
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:08 AM Marta Paes Moreira <
> ma...@ververica.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey, Robert.
> > >>
> > >> Updating the roadmap is something I can work on (and also have on my
> > >> radar,
> > >> moving forward). Already had a quick word with Stephan and he's
> > available
> > >> to provide support, if needed.
> > >>
> > >> Marta
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 4:46 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I could help with that.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:36 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Flink 1.9 is feature freezed and almost released.
> > >> > > I guess it makes sense to update the roadmap on the website again.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Who feels like having a good overview of what's coming up?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Yes, that's a very good proposal Jark.
> > >> > > > +1
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Best, Fabian
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 16:33 Uhr schrieb Till Rohrmann <
> > >> > > > trohrm...@apache.org
> > >> > > > >:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > I think this is a good idea Jark. Putting the last update date
> > on
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > roadmap would also force us to regularly update it.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > > Till
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:14 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > One suggestion for the roadmap:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Shall we add a `latest-update-time` to the top of Roadmap
> > page?
> > >> So
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > > > > users can know this is a up-to-date Roadmap.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 04:49, Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > +1
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:41 PM jincheng sun <
> > >> > > > > sunjincheng...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi Jeff&Fabian,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > I have open the PR about add Python Table API section to
> > the
> > >> > > > > roadmap. I
> > >> > > > > > > > appreciate if you have time to look at it. :)
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/204
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > > > > > Jincheng
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > jincheng sun <sunjincheng...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一
> > >> > 下午11:12写道:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Sure, I will do it!I think the python table api info
> > >> should
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >  roadmap! Thank you @Jeff @Fabian
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>于2019年4月29日
> 周一23:05写道:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >> Great, thanks Jeff and Timo!
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> @Jincheng do you want to write a paragraph about the
> > >> Python
> > >> > > > effort
> > >> > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > >> open a PR for it?
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> I'll remove the issue about Hadoop convenience builds
> > >> > > > > (FLINK-11266).
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> Best, Fabian
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Jeff
> Zhang <
> > >> > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> jincheng(cc) is driving the python effort, I think
> he
> > >> can
> > >> > > help
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> prepare it.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月29日周一
> > >> 下午10:15写道:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi everyone,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Since we had no more comments on this thread, I
> think
> > >> we
> > >> > > > proceed
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> update the roadmap.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> @Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> I agree, we should
> > add
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > Python
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> efforts to the roadmap.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Do you want to prepare a short paragraph that we
> can
> > >> add
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> document?
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Best, Fabian
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Am Mi., 17. Apr. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Jeff
> > Zhang <
> > >> > > > > > > > zjf...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> >:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Fabian,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> One thing missing is python api and python udf, we
> > >> > already
> > >> > > > > > > discussed
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it in
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> community, and it is very close to reach
> consensus.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月17日周三
> > >> > 下午7:51写道:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Hi everyone,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > We recently added a roadmap to our project
> website
> > >> [1]
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > > > decided
> > >> > > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > update it after every release. Flink 1.8.0 was
> > >> > released a
> > >> > > > few
> > >> > > > > > > days
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> ago, so
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I think it we should check and remove from the
> > >> roadmap
> > >> > > what
> > >> > > > > was
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> achieved so
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > far and add features / improvements that we plan
> > for
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > future.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > I had a look at the roadmap and found that
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > We are changing the build setup to not bundle
> > >> Hadoop
> > >> > by
> > >> > > > > > > default,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> but
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > rather offer pre-packaged
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > Hadoop libraries for the use with Yarn, HDFS,
> > >> etc. as
> > >> > > > > > > convenience
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > downloads FLINK-11266 <
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-11266
> >.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > was implemented for 1.8.0 and should be removed
> > from
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > roadmap.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > All other issues are still ongoing efforts.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Are there any other efforts that we want to put
> on
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > roadmap?
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > Best, Fabian
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> --
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Best Regards
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Jeff Zhang
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> --
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> Best Regards
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> Jeff Zhang
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
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