I've assigned you to the ticket. You've convinced me that the "Deployment Model" thing was not a good idea.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:35 AM Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Really cool. I especially like the list of tags on "Ververica Platform"! > > BTW, why is "Ververica Platform" placed at the last? I won't feel bothered > if we move it to the top. > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 5:56 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm not sure, I think most all the options other than EMR abstract that > > component away. > > > > I've also opened a ticket if a commiter could please assign it to my > Jira: > > sjwiesman > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15337 > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:29 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > I was actually referring to "YARN", "Kubernetes", "Mesos". > > > If people know that AWS EMR is using YARN, they know which > documentation > > to > > > look for in Flink. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:26 PM Konstantin Knauf < > > konstan...@ververica.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 This gives a better overview of the deployment targets and shows > our > > > > prospective users that they can rely on a broad set of vendors, if > help > > > is > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > I guess, Robert means if the vendor offers a managed service (like > AWS > > > > Kinesis Analytics), or licenses software (like Ververica Platform). > > This > > > > would be beneficial, but on the other hand the categories/terms > > (managed, > > > > hosted, "serverless", self-managed) are not so well-defined in my > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:46 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Happy to see there seems to be a consensus. > > > > > > > > > > Robert, can you elaborate on what you mean by "deployment model"? > > > > > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:19 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 to the general idea > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we could add "Deployment Model" in addition to "Supported > > > > > > Environments" as properties for the vendors. > > > > > > I'd say Cloudera, Eventador and Huawei [1] are missing from this > > page > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]https://www.huaweicloud.com/en-us/product/cs.html > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:05 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for your proposed solution, Seth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:05 PM Till Rohrmann < > > > trohrm...@apache.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for continuing this discussion Seth. I like the mockup > > > and I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > this is a good improvement. Modulo the completeness check, +1 > > for > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > links to 3rd party integrations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Till > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:04 PM Seth Wiesman < > > > sjwies...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This discussion is a follow up to the previous thread on > > > dropping > > > > > > > > > vendor-specific documentation[1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The conversation ended unresolved on the question of what > we > > > > should > > > > > > > > provide > > > > > > > > > on the Apache Flink docs. The consensus seemed to be moving > > > > towards > > > > > > > > > offering a table with links to 3rd parties. After an > offline > > > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > > with Robert, I have drafted a mock-up of what that might > look > > > > > > like[2]. > > > > > > > > > Please note that I included a few vendors that I could > think > > of > > > > off > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > of my head, the list in this picture is not complete but > that > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > conversation we are having here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are three competing goals that we are trying to > achieve > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Provide information to users that vendor support is > > > available > > > > as > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > be important in growing adoption within enterprises > > > > > > > > > 2) Be maintainable by the open-source Flink community > > > > > > > > > 3) Remain neutral > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know what you think > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Drop-vendor-specific-deployment-documentation-td35457.html > > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sjwiesman/bb90f0765148c15051bcc91092367851/raw/42c0a1e9240f1c5808a053f8ff5965828cca96d5/mockup.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect > > > > > > > > +49 160 91394525 > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow us @VervericaData Ververica <https://www.ververica.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink > > > > Conference > > > > > > > > Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ververica GmbH > > > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B > > > > Managing Directors: Timothy Alexander Steinert, Yip Park Tung Jason, > Ji > > > > (Tony) Cheng > > > > > > > > > >
