Really cool. I especially like the list of tags on "Ververica Platform"!

BTW, why is "Ververica Platform" placed at the last? I won't feel bothered
if we move it to the top.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 5:56 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure, I think most all the options other than EMR abstract that
> component away.
>
> I've also opened a ticket if a commiter could please assign it to my Jira:
> sjwiesman
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15337
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:29 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I was actually referring to "YARN", "Kubernetes", "Mesos".
> > If people know that AWS EMR is using YARN, they know which documentation
> to
> > look for in Flink.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 4:26 PM Konstantin Knauf <
> konstan...@ververica.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 This gives a better overview of the deployment targets and shows our
> > > prospective users that they can rely on a broad set of vendors, if help
> > is
> > > needed.
> > >
> > > I guess, Robert means if the vendor offers a managed service (like AWS
> > > Kinesis Analytics), or licenses software (like Ververica Platform).
> This
> > > would be beneficial, but on the other hand the categories/terms
> (managed,
> > > hosted, "serverless", self-managed) are not so well-defined in my
> > > experience.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:46 PM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Happy to see there seems to be a consensus.
> > > >
> > > > Robert, can you elaborate on what you mean by "deployment model"?
> > > >
> > > > Seth
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:19 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 to the general idea
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe we could add "Deployment Model" in addition to "Supported
> > > > > Environments" as properties for the vendors.
> > > > > I'd say Cloudera, Eventador and Huawei [1] are missing from this
> page
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]https://www.huaweicloud.com/en-us/product/cs.html
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:05 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for your proposed solution, Seth!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:05 PM Till Rohrmann <
> > trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for continuing this discussion Seth. I like the mockup
> > and I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > this is a good improvement. Modulo the completeness check, +1
> for
> > > > > > offering
> > > > > > > links to 3rd party integrations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Till
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:04 PM Seth Wiesman <
> > sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This discussion is a follow up to the previous thread on
> > dropping
> > > > > > > > vendor-specific documentation[1].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The conversation ended unresolved on the question of what we
> > > should
> > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > on the Apache Flink docs. The consensus seemed to be moving
> > > towards
> > > > > > > > offering a table with links to 3rd parties. After an offline
> > > > > > conversation
> > > > > > > > with Robert, I have drafted a mock-up of what that might look
> > > > > like[2].
> > > > > > > > Please note that I included a few vendors that I could think
> of
> > > off
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > of my head, the list in this picture is not complete but that
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > conversation we are having here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are three competing goals that we are trying to achieve
> > > here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1) Provide information to users that vendor support is
> > available
> > > as
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > be important in growing adoption within enterprises
> > > > > > > > 2) Be maintainable by the open-source Flink community
> > > > > > > > 3) Remain neutral
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let me know what you think
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Seth
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Drop-vendor-specific-deployment-documentation-td35457.html
> > > > > > > > [2]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sjwiesman/bb90f0765148c15051bcc91092367851/raw/42c0a1e9240f1c5808a053f8ff5965828cca96d5/mockup.png
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
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