+1 on the idea. This will certainly help promote Flink in China industries. On a side note, it would be great if anyone in the list can help source ideas, bug reports, and feature requests to dev@ list and/or JIRAs so as to gain broader attention.
Thanks, Xuefu ------------------------------------------------------------------ From:Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> Sent At:2019 Jan. 24 (Thu.) 05:32 To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org> Subject:Re: [DISCUSS] Start a user...@flink.apache.org mailing list for the Chinese-speaking community? Thanks Robert! I think this is a very good idea. +1 Fabian Am Do., 24. Jan. 2019 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com>: > +1 > > Piotr Nowojski <pi...@da-platform.com> 于2019年1月24日周四 下午8:38写道： > > > +1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, > > committers & users :) > > > > Piotrek > > > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. > > > > > > fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： > > > > > >> +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA > > >> permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more developers > > from > > >> China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will definitely > > be > > >> helpful for the growth of Flink in China. > > >> > > >> > > >>> 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： > > >>> > > >>> +1, a very nice idea > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org > > > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Thanks for your response. > > >>>> > > >>>> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the > > mailing > > >>>> list's name! > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > > >> tzuli...@apache.org> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Robert, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the > > >> title, > > >>>>> but > > >>>>> -cn in the opening email content. > > >>>>> I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for > > general > > >>>>> Chinese-speaking users). > > >>>>> All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English > > >> mailing > > >>>>> list. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's > quite a > > >> bit > > >>>>> of activity in forms of user questions and replies. > > >>>>> It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can > > >>>>> actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists, > > >>>>> so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be > > >> indexed > > >>>>> and searchable. > > >>>>> Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a > > >>>>> Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, > > >>>>> which in general is a form of contribution that the community > always > > >>>> merits > > >>>>> a lot. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>> Gordon > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hey all, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > > >>>>>> user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink > > >>>> community. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Why? > > >>>>>> In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from > > the > > >>>>> US, > > >>>>>> 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US > at > > >>>> 20%. > > >>>>>> An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group > with > > >>>> more > > >>>>>> than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > > >>>>>> I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public > > >>>> forums > > >>>>>> (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge > > >>>> demand > > >>>>>> in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide > > these > > >>>>> users > > >>>>>> the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to > > follow > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>> Apache way. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Is it possible? > > >>>>>> I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are > > running > > >>>>>> non-English user@ mailing lists. > > >>>>>> Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have > > >>>> non-English > > >>>>>> lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > > >>>>>> One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all > > >>>>> project > > >>>>>> decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen > > in > > >>>>>> English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation > > and > > >>>> our > > >>>>>> community. > > >>>>>> We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> How? > > >>>>>> If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request > the > > >>>> new > > >>>>>> mailing list next Monday. > > >>>>>> In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the > > >>>>>> discussions have stopped. > > >>>>>> Then, we should put the new list on our website and start > promoting > > it > > >>>>> (in > > >>>>>> said DingTalk group and on social media). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Let me know what you think about this idea :) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>> Robert > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > > >>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> -- > > > Best, > > > Kurt > > > > > > -- > Best Regards > > Jeff Zhang >
