+1, a very nice idea

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for your response.
>
> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the mailing
> list's name!
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai <tzuli...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for starting this discussion!
> >
> > +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the title,
> > but
> > -cn in the opening email content.
> > I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for general
> > Chinese-speaking users).
> > All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English mailing
> > list.
> >
> > From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's quite a bit
> > of activity in forms of user questions and replies.
> > It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can
> > actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists,
> > so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be indexed
> > and searchable.
> > Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a
> > Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests,
> > which in general is a form of contribution that the community always
> merits
> > a lot.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gordon
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I would like to create a new user support mailing list called "
> > > user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink
> community.
> > >
> > > Why?
> > > In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from the
> > US,
> > > 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US at
> 20%.
> > > An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group with
> more
> > > than 5000 members, asking Flink questions.
> > > I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public
> forums
> > > (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge
> demand
> > > in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide these
> > users
> > > the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to follow
> > the
> > > Apache way.
> > >
> > > Is it possible?
> > > I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are running
> > > non-English user@ mailing lists.
> > > Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have
> non-English
> > > lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> > > One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all
> > project
> > > decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen in
> > > English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation and
> our
> > > community.
> > > We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists.
> > >
> > > How?
> > > If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request the
> new
> > > mailing list next Monday.
> > > In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the
> > > discussions have stopped.
> > > Then, we should put the new list on our website and start promoting it
> > (in
> > > said DingTalk group and on social media).
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think about this idea :)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for:
> > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH
> > >
> >
>

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