+1, a great starting point! It'll be nice if we can later come up with some way to bridge the knowledge between two email channels.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:32 AM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Robert! > I think this is a very good idea. > +1 > > Fabian > > Am Do., 24. Jan. 2019 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com>: > > > +1 > > > > Piotr Nowojski <pi...@da-platform.com> 于2019年1月24日周四 下午8:38写道： > > > > > +1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, > > > committers & users :) > > > > > > Piotrek > > > > > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. > > > > > > > > fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： > > > > > > > >> +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA > > > >> permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more > developers > > > from > > > >> China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will > definitely > > > be > > > >> helpful for the growth of Flink in China. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： > > > >>> > > > >>> +1, a very nice idea > > > >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thanks for your response. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the > > > mailing > > > >>>> list's name! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > > > >> tzuli...@apache.org> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Hi Robert, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the > > > >> title, > > > >>>>> but > > > >>>>> -cn in the opening email content. > > > >>>>> I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for > > > general > > > >>>>> Chinese-speaking users). > > > >>>>> All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English > > > >> mailing > > > >>>>> list. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's > > quite a > > > >> bit > > > >>>>> of activity in forms of user questions and replies. > > > >>>>> It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community > can > > > >>>>> actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing > lists, > > > >>>>> so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be > > > >> indexed > > > >>>>> and searchable. > > > >>>>> Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a > > > >>>>> Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, > > > >>>>> which in general is a form of contribution that the community > > always > > > >>>> merits > > > >>>>> a lot. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>> Gordon > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger < > > rmetz...@apache.org > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hey all, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > > > >>>>>> user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink > > > >>>> community. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Why? > > > >>>>>> In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came > from > > > the > > > >>>>> US, > > > >>>>>> 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the > US > > at > > > >>>> 20%. > > > >>>>>> An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group > > with > > > >>>> more > > > >>>>>> than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > > > >>>>>> I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in > public > > > >>>> forums > > > >>>>>> (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a > huge > > > >>>> demand > > > >>>>>> in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide > > > these > > > >>>>> users > > > >>>>>> the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to > > > follow > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>> Apache way. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Is it possible? > > > >>>>>> I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are > > > running > > > >>>>>> non-English user@ mailing lists. > > > >>>>>> Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have > > > >>>> non-English > > > >>>>>> lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > > > >>>>>> One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that > all > > > >>>>> project > > > >>>>>> decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to > happen > > > in > > > >>>>>> English, as this is the primary language of the Apache > Foundation > > > and > > > >>>> our > > > >>>>>> community. > > > >>>>>> We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing > lists. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> How? > > > >>>>>> If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request > > the > > > >>>> new > > > >>>>>> mailing list next Monday. > > > >>>>>> In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when > the > > > >>>>>> discussions have stopped. > > > >>>>>> Then, we should put the new list on our website and start > > promoting > > > it > > > >>>>> (in > > > >>>>>> said DingTalk group and on social media). > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Let me know what you think about this idea :) > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Best, > > > >>>>>> Robert > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > > > >>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > Best, > > > > Kurt > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > > > Jeff Zhang > > >
