I think the project name and “product” name should match up. I don’t feel what we have is a product. We have a framework that developers will use to produce a product. If the names align then searches will be much easier to follow. That way when we produce “marketing material” for the framework and actually attract potential contributors, they’d easily find us on Apache as the names match up. We’re devs, miss-matching namespaces freak us out 😉
I’m still in the same camp with Alex. I’m still worried about devs finding the solution as a migration from Apache Flex. As for the JS being apart of the name, I’m not too worried about it. Since we’re still in pre 1.0, I’d imagine we’re still working on stabilizing and getting that conversion to JS to work seamlessly? Once that has stabilized I can totally see us “cross compiling” to Android, iPhone, etc. were naturally we’d want to loose the “JS” part of the name. That I can only figure would land around 3 years down the road? I honestly don’t have a good beat on where the FlexJS project is at right now. I feel like it’s close but just not there yet. If I was presented with a concern from management about the relation of Flex and FlexJS, then I’d just simply say that FlexJS affords us to still use the vast knowledge base of the Flex framework and target a different runtime. If we were to choose another framework like Angular or Aurelia, then we’d not only be migrating to a new platform, but also to a whole new framework. That migration will take way longer, even if we started both projects from the ground up. If they are concerned about ActionScript as a language in terms of it’s longevity, I’d point out that isn’t where the knowledge overhead is at. It’s the framework. ActionScript and JavaScript are pretty darn near interchangeable as a language. And ActionScript still has a very happy and stable home with Adobe AIR. Chrsmrtn Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Dave Fisher<mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:09 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org<mailto:dev@flex.apache.org> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork Hi - We have one alternative name - Royale Are there others that people would like to propose? If not then we can have a simple VOTE between FlexJS and Royale. Regards, Dave > On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Om, > > I think that dilutes the votes and biases the result towards FlexJS. If we > want to go that way then we need a preference ranking and more complicated > VOTE counting. > > Regards, > Dave > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:57 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> We could always structure the VOTE like this: >> >> 1. Royale >> 2. XXX >> 3. YYY >> 4. FlexJS >> >> One vote should answer both questions. >> >> Thanks, >> Om >> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On the other hand, we have rather majority of voices for do not change the >>> name and Alex is right. - I'm seeing more people asking for help with >>> porting. - We may disappear in the sea of frameworks with changed name... >>> >>> Maybe better have solid framework and invest in current name still with >>> nice branding. I'm puzzled, so definitely I will give myself at least one >>> day more before VOTE. >>> >>> Piotr >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-09-13 23:31 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> +1 for Dave's proposition on starting the VOTE for name change. >>>> >>>> I would like to also add that Carlos's proposition for help to build new >>>> brand triggers me. Peter helped also do understand that we can always >>> state >>>> from where we have come and what was our story. >>>> >>>> I'm going to change my mind on name changing and pickup "Royale" as the >>>> most powerful for the new one. - The main question is can we use it since >>>> it was code name of Macromedia Framework ? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Piotr >>>> >>>> 2017-09-13 22:59 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: >>>> >>>>> Hi - >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos’ argument carries weight to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> If a new name will help motivate him in terms of marketing it, that’s >>>>> value I can recognize. >>>>>> >>>>>> The name is not as important to me as motivating people to be involved >>>>> in the project. We can build whatever messages we want around the name. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos clearly feels more passionate about his position than I do >>> about >>>>> mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> A hesitation I have about picking a new name is that I don’t want to >>>>> delay the board’s decision on the new PMC. If we go for a new name can >>> we >>>>> try and pick one quickly? >>>>> >>>>> Let's start the FlexJS yes or no vote tonight or tomorrow morning. >>>>> >>>>> In parallel we can discuss other names if a new name is the result then >>>>> we can immediately start the next vote. We have just enough time. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Harbs >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm putting some efforts here since I think this is really important >>>>> for >>>>>>> all of us and for our beloved FlexJS project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Name, website and all the visuals behind it matters....and is >>>>> important in >>>>>>> a way many of us in this community maybe can't imagine. If we don't >>>>> get a >>>>>>> fresh and compelling name and a clean and beautiful site where we >>>>> explain >>>>>>> all the great things our technology can do, we are losing our time, >>>>> since >>>>>>> this project will end with the bulk of the others xxxJS projects, and >>>>>>> that's even horrible when our tech could be used for things other >>> than >>>>> JS!! >>>>>>> (If we want in future years to make it possible). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Alex: I Think we can't have a PROJECT name != of PRODUCT name for >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>> >>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557> >>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>> >>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki >>>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Piotr Zarzycki >>> >>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>> skype: zarzycki10 >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki >>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552> >>> >
