I think we should ask Infra for an Azure VM.  We need to prove
clone-ability of whatever we build up on my VM.  And it wouldn't hurt to
have another build machine that runs a different player config.

And if it turns out we can run that VM at a higher speed we might clone
some of the mustella testing to it as well.

If there are no objections over the next day or two I will try to figure
out what we need to do to get one.

-Alex

On 4/21/14 5:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

>Chris,
>
>I read and understood your previous emails on this subject. It all sounds
>awesome, and I'm sure the infra folks you talked to at the time meant what
>they said. But in my experience, what infra says and what they actually do
>(within a reasonable timeframe) are two entirely different things.
>
>I've spend way too much time this past year trying to work with them to
>keep the one VM up and running for more than a week. They just can't
>manage
>even that. In addition, they have (up till a week ago) denied all offers
>to
>help them.
>
>So, I'm done with them. If someone else has the cycles to keep fighting
>the
>windmills, they are welcome to it. I'm going to help set up our own,
>external VM.
>
>After that, I'm going back to actually writing code for the project. There
>are compilers out there that need some love ;-)
>
>Thanks,
>
>EdB
>
>
>
>On Monday, April 21, 2014, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> on the ApacheCon we were told that it is possible for any Apache Project
>> to get a dedicated VM ... perhaps this would be something we should use?
>> And it would be definitely possible to setup a build agent on that VM
>>and
>> have Infra set that up in the public Jenkins (That agent would be
>>flagged
>> with "ApacheFlex" or something like that and our builds would be flagged
>> with "needs ApacheFlex". Then we would be using the public CI server
>>but be
>> running on our own Agents. Think that's a sensible solution. I even
>> mentioned the option to Add external Agents, this would be possible, but
>> Infra would prefer Apache Internal VMs in order to avoid any unwanted
>> Influence of external parties (Namely a company sponsoring a vm and
>>using
>> that to influence votes ... well I guess it was a little paranoid, but a
>> valid thought)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com <javascript:;>]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 21. April 2014 08:22
>> An: dev@flex.apache.org <javascript:;>
>> Betreff: Re: Build Servers
>>
>> Hi Erik, Om,
>>
>> I actually spent my evenings this weekend trying to set it up.  Figured
>> I'd learn something about Jenkins and Azure in the process.
>>
>> I'll post the info on private@ and we should just send emails when/if
>>you
>> guys have time to spend on it.  I'll be poking at it for another 40
>>minutes
>> or so this evening.
>>
>> Feel free to change just about anything.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 4/20/14 11:46 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just CI and nightlies, to replace 'builds@a.o'.
>> >>
>> >> Then if that is working reliably, we can start experimenting with
>> >>your plan  to add more Mustella nodes...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Great.  Can you make sure that the VMs are clone-able?  You might have
>> >to create a fully working system, stop it, do a sysprep and create a
>> >clone before use that.  It is a little bit of upfront work, but makes
>> >it so much easier to bring new systems online and get them working off
>> the bat.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Om
>> >
>> >
>> >> EdB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>> >> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 20, 2014 10:24 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Alex,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I may be able to free up some time this week to (help) create the
>> >> > > CI
>> >> VM.
>> >> > > "All" I need are your Azure account credentials, so I can set up
>> >> > > the
>> >> VM,
>> >> > > after which I can use RDP to set up the software for the builds.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Free from 'builds@a.o', free at last!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > EdB
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > What about Mustella?  Our is this just for CI?
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > After seeing this latest run of failures, does anybody still
>> >> > > > want
>> >>to
>> >> > rely
>> >> > > > on build.a.o for anything?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > If anything, we should ask builds@ to email their list when
>> >> > > > they
>> >>do
>> >> > > > critical security upgrades so we can try to keep up on our
>> >> > > > build
>> >> > machine.
>> >> > > > I think there's a chance that a multi-project server is likely
>> >> > > > to
>> >> have
>> >> > a
>> >> > > > huge pile of jars from all over the place which is more exposed
>> >>than
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > few jars for our flex-only server.  We just have to learn how
>> >> > > > to
>> >> harden
>> >> > it
>> >> > > > at least as well as builds.a.o.  Shouldn't that be possible?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > And I have to admit that I'm tempted to point the next version
>> >> > > > of
>> >>the
>> >> > > > installer out to our Flex CI server for its config or mirror
>> >> > > > the
>> >> whole
>> >> > > > site.  We can't even modify our site right now.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -Alex
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 4/17/14 3:58 PM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >HI,
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Do we want to at least use the ASF build server for
>> >> > > > >> providing
>> >> > official
>> >> > > >> > > > >+that
>> >>non
>> >> > one
>> >> > > > >has fiddled with the nightly builds. Our own set up machines
>> >> > > > >are
>> >> > likely
>> >> > > > >to be less secure and there's a small risk that something bad
>> >>could
>> >> > > > >happen.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Thanks,
>> >> > > > >Justin
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>> >> > >
>> >> > > T. 06-51952295
>> >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ix Multimedia Software
>> >>
>> >> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> >> 3521 VB Utrecht
>> >>
>> >> T. 06-51952295
>> >> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>> >>
>>
>>
>
>-- 
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>
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>3521 VB Utrecht
>
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