AIR continues in the scope of Adobe, so no worries...for now... 2013/3/6 Frédéric THOMAS <webdoubl...@hotmail.com>
> From what sayed Thibault at the com 26 on http://www.bytearray.org/?p=** > 5197 <http://www.bytearray.org/?p=5197> Air going to continue for support > new ios and android OSes > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Edouard > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:39 AM > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Flash finally dead? > > > just one question > For me, I didn't use Flex for web application because of Flash but i used > it for Mobile App with the performance of fxg and the capabilities of Adobe > air wich allow to make some native extension etc... > What about that, if Flash (and adobe Air ?) is die, how to target mobile ? > The best thing about Flex was to write desktop / mobile / web app and reuse > 85% of the code :/ > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Carlos Rovira < > carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > > Really nothing disruptive, but as you master a technology and have >> resources that make you accomplish many tasks you would want to reuse as >> many as you can. Flex is a great development platform nowadays. GWT, >> JavaFX, Dart seems to be very good as well in its own flavor. But all >> people here loves Flex because it fits it's needs and thinks is the better >> platform to accomplish their tasks. They love code in Flex. They are >> comfortable in this environment. The problem is that it's output is >> dying... It could be great to expand the boundaries of Flex and make it >> play in the HTML5 world...and be the best *development* platform competing >> with the other we mention...while maintain what makes it great before in >> *development* terms. >> >> One thing nobody talks about Flex is that the platform gives you all the >> code, classes and features you need and work seamless...while in HTML/JS >> you must to search for "scripts" and libraries that makes different people >> and that does not play well together, so you need to invest many time >> making it to work together. >> >> That kind of things is what Flex could leverage for their users and >> success >> in the competition...btw, competition is very good and we should not try >> to >> be the only one option out there. >> >> >> >> 2013/3/6 Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@gmail.com> >> >> > @Carlos >> > There is no such JS library. >> > >> > >> > But there is stuff like GWT, Dart ShartKit >> > So if Flex turns out to be another JS cross compiler >> > What would be the benefit of Flex over the above ? >> > That s what i m asking myself. >> > >> > I dont see none. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/3/6 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com**> >> > >> > > Hi Alain, please can you point me to libraries/frameworks/**plataforms >> > > in >> > > HTML5/JS that provide us with such benefits? OOP and XML layout >> > > declaration? >> > > >> > > Thanks in advance >> > > >> > > 2013/3/6 Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@gmail.com> >> > > >> > > > @Carlos >> > > > I agree >> > > > >> > > > But at some poin we will need more then the OOP/MXML argument. >> > > > There are several libaries out there providing the same and > > > >> compiling >> > > down >> > > > to JS. >> > > > Minus the overhead to add ActionScript to the project. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 2013/3/6 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com**> >> > > > >> > > > > In what concerns us, the important thing is to keep the benefits >> > > > > of >> > > Flex >> > > > > (OOP, MXML, ...) as this produces output to Flash and HTML / JS. I >> > > think >> > > > in >> > > > > older applications will have to keep running in Flash and the new >> > > > framework >> > > > > will have the potential for multiple outputs. >> > > > > >> > > > > IMHO, what keeps us in this Platform are all benefits that gives >> > > > > us >> > as >> > > > > developers (OOP, MXML) and third-party tools that support the >> > platform. >> > > > If >> > > > > is Flash or is HTML sincerily is irrelevant, as long as they > > >> > > manage >> > to >> > > > > produce what we need (still think this is not possible with HTML >> > > > nowadays). >> > > > > >> > > > > If HTML5/JS get evolve (and I think it will) to support all we had >> in >> > > the >> > > > > flash runtime for my perfect... >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > 2013/3/6 Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@gmail.com> >> > > > > >> > > > > > And it looks like Adobe has something in the pipeline allready >> > > > > > >> > > > > > http://topcoat.io/ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 2013/3/6 aYo ~ <a...@binitie.com> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Je vous écoutez Alain mais Thibaut I think has to do this by >> > virtue >> > > > of >> > > > > > his >> > > > > > > job. Standard adobe practice, take the brightest and push them >> to >> > > > > > projects >> > > > > > > that need evangelizing >> > > > > > > On Mar 6, 2013 8:55 AM, "Alain Ekambi" < >> jazzmatad...@gmail.com >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It s when you see the core Flash engineer praising >> > > JavaScript/HTML >> > > > > then >> > > > > > > you >> > > > > > > > know that Flash is in trouble. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2013/3/6 Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hi, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Flex is an Apache open source project. Adobe as a company >> has >> > > no >> > > > > > > control >> > > > > > > > > over it but Adobe employees are free to (and do) >> contribute. >> > > > That's >> > > > > > how >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > ASF works. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic but there was a very good session at >> > > ApacheCon >> > > > > NA >> > > > > > on >> > > > > > > > > the managing the risks of using open source - perhaps it >> can >> > > put >> > > > > > things >> > > > > > > > > into perspective? >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > http://lanyrd.com/2013/**apachecon/scbttz/<http://lanyrd.com/2013/apachecon/scbttz/> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> http://archive.apachecon.com/**na2013/presentations/28-** >> Thursday/Community_Over_code/**14:45-Managing_Project_Risk_** >> when_using_Open_Source-Nick_**Burch.odp<http://archive.apachecon.com/na2013/presentations/28-Thursday/Community_Over_code/14:45-Managing_Project_Risk_when_using_Open_Source-Nick_Burch.odp> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > > > > > Justin >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Carlos Rovira >> > > > > Director de Tecnología >> > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> > > > > F: +34 912 94 80 80 >> > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com >> > > > > http://www.directwriter.es >> > > > > http://www.avant2.es >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Carlos Rovira >> > > Director de Tecnología >> > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> > > F: +34 912 94 80 80 >> > > http://www.codeoscopic.com >> > > http://www.directwriter.es >> > > http://www.avant2.es >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carlos Rovira >> Director de Tecnología >> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> F: +34 912 94 80 80 >> http://www.codeoscopic.com >> http://www.directwriter.es >> http://www.avant2.es >> >> > > > -- > Edouard Bataille > Epita MTI 2008 > Consultant Expert Java Flex > -- Carlos Rovira Director de Tecnología M: +34 607 22 60 05 F: +34 912 94 80 80 http://www.codeoscopic.com http://www.directwriter.es http://www.avant2.es
