2011/9/15 Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:25:55 PM Aki Yoshida wrote:
>> 2011/9/15 Freeman Fang <freeman.f...@gmail.com>:
>> > Not sure we can download and ship the wsdl with CXF kit per license
>> > reason.
>> I was thinking about what to do with WS-RM tests and wanted to ask
>> about the licencing condition for those interoperabiliy lab's WSDLs.
>
> No one ever was able to descern the license on those WSDL's and schemas so we
> kind of took the approach of not to include them as the license is unknown.
>
>>
>> Another thing I wanted to ask was whether we are allowed to mock
>> certain aspects of the system behavior using the recorded message
>> transcriptions from those third party servers/clients. Maybe, this is
>> also not allowed.
>
> I cannot see why this latter one would not be allowed.   Machine generated
> content doesn't really have any copywritable  content and shouldn't be an
> issue.
>

I hope it's allowed and indeed the owner of the generator should be
happy to have their data used by someone to verify its generator's
interoperability with other devices. But because of so many
unbelievable stories you hear, I thought, unless we get an explicit
permission, we may get into some trouble doing so.

In general, if you record output data from someone's device that
generates some output upon receiving some input and later we use this
recorded data to simulate the device, I think we could get into
trouble, no?

regards, aki

> Dan
>
>
>>
>> Is there something happening at OASIS in this interop area?
>>
>> regards, aki
>>
>> > Freeman
>> >
>> > On 2011-9-15, at 上午10:23, Johan Edstrom wrote:
>> >> Can we download em and mark it as not functional from the M$ side?
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Freeman Fang wrote:
>> >>> Hi Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> Due to the Microsoft WCF security related server down for quite a
>> >>> while(probably over a year and I'm not sure if they can come back
>> >>> again), so the ws_security/interopfest examples shipped with kit
>> >>>  doesn't work, I know that wssec10, wssec11, and wssc samples in
>> >>> samples/ws_security/interopfest have local server, but those local
>> >>> server also need download wsdl(I don't think we can ship those
>> >>> wsdls for license reason) during runtime from Microsoft WCF server,
>> >>> so if Microsoft WCF server is down, even local server doesn't work.
>> >>>
>> >>> Currently we have a NOTES like
>> >>> IMPORTANT NOTE:  since these samples rely on the external services
>> >>> that
>> >>> are provided
>> >>> by Microsoft, they may or may not run or even build reliably if the
>> >>> services are down
>> >>> or have been changed.
>> >>>
>> >>> But if Microsoft WCF server never come back, it means those examples
>> >>> will never work again,  so it's not a good experience for end user.
>> >>> Should we contact Microsoft to ask the server back(:-))?   Should
>> >>> we remove those examples? Or should we just leave it as is?
>> >>>
>> >>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Regards
>> >>> Freeman
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------
>> >>> Freeman Fang
>> >>>
>> >>> FuseSource
>> >>> Email:ff...@fusesource.com
>> >>> Web: fusesource.com
>> >>> Twitter: freemanfang
>> >>> Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------
>> > Freeman Fang
>> >
>> > FuseSource
>> > Email:ff...@fusesource.com
>> > Web: fusesource.com
>> > Twitter: freemanfang
>> > Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.com
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