Thank you again for the updates, Etienne. I've published the blog post, which is available from:
- The ASF's "Foundation" blog https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/success-at-apache-my-experience - @TheASF Twitter feed https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/1508932452349263872 - The ASF on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6914698471895613440/ ...plus sent to announce@ and our media/analyst and sponsors lists. This will appear on the apache.org homepage and archives within the hour. We appreciate your contribution to the Success at Apache series! Best, Sally - - - Vice President Sponsor Relations The Apache Software Foundation Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:53, Sally Khudairi wrote: > Actually ...every link from the gdoc points to the same Blogger URL. > > Kindly advise/correct. > > Thanks, > Sally > > - - - > Vice President Sponsor Relations > The Apache Software Foundation > > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:49, Sally Khudairi wrote: >> Thank you, Etienne. >> >> I'm getting ready to publish, but see that the link for "PMC Member" and >> "ASF Member" both point to >> https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949# >> which resolves to https://www.blogger.com/dashboard/reading >> >> Something is wrong with that. I'm happy to remove the links altogether or >> change. What is in place isn't right. >> >> Best, >> Sally >> >> - - - >> Vice President Sponsor Relations >> The Apache Software Foundation >> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 09:36, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>> Hi Sally, >>> >>> Thank you very much ! Sorry I just saw your email. Here is the bio: >>> >>> Etienne has been working in software engineering for more than 15 years and >>> is now specialized in Big Data. He is an Open Source fan, and contributes >>> to Apache projects such as Apache Beam, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. He is >>> also the author of the "Big data Chronicles" blog >>> (https://echauchot.blogspot.com/). He is an Apache Beam committer and PMC >>> member and also an Apache Foundation member. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Etienne >>> >>> Le 28/03/2022 à 13:48, Sally Khudairi a écrit : >>>> Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish today. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> Sally >>>> >>>> - - - >>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>> >>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote: >>>>> Thank you, Etienne. >>>>> >>>>> I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Sally >>>>> >>>>> - - - >>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>>> >>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>>>>> Hi Sally, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can you >>>>>> publish it on the Success at Apache blog ? >>>>>> >>>>>> A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Best >>>>>> >>>>>> Etienne Chauchot >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry >>>>>>>> for the delay, just got buried in my inbox. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jzb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Etienne. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Sally >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - - - >>>>>>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>>>>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Sally, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can >>>>>>>>>> review my article and post it on Success at Apache blog ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article draft >>>>>>>>>>> you wanted that I sent last week ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> discuss the content of this article. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the Success >>>>>>>>>>>> at Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and >>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me if I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my >>>>>>>>>>>>> personnal blog also (through a link to the ASF) . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 🕥 7 min. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Introducion >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been working in software engineering for more than 15 >>>>>>>>>>>>> years. I've always contributed to Open Source software as a user >>>>>>>>>>>>> or a coder. But I've been contributing to ASF >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> projects such as Apache Flink >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Beam >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or Apache Spark >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I find >>>>>>>>>>>>> *the Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate on >>>>>>>>>>>>> software engineering. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>> good content about that already. I will rather link to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> official Apache documentation >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it >>>>>>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>> Way as I see them. Of course, every Apache community is >>>>>>>>>>>>> different, but what I wanted to emphasize is that applying the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Way by the book could lead to what I'd call a "perfect >>>>>>>>>>>>> society" even if this word seems a bit naive and over optimistic >>>>>>>>>>>>> or even utopian. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A perfect society >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities >>>>>>>>>>>>> behave like a sort of perfect society: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The community is governed by merit: everything is about what >>>>>>>>>>>>> you do inside the community and at some point your efforts are >>>>>>>>>>>>> noted and you get credit for your work by obtaining more rights >>>>>>>>>>>>> (direct access to the project repositories, election of >>>>>>>>>>>>> committers >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and >>>>>>>>>>>>> voting for the best one leads to the best possible state of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> project in the end. The best idea always wins in the long term. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The software is not driven by money: no private concerns >>>>>>>>>>>>> should take over. When the incubation process is well advanced, >>>>>>>>>>>>> before graduation, the ASF bord >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users >>>>>>>>>>>>> and developers communities are big enough), healthy and also not >>>>>>>>>>>>> owned by a single company and its private financial >>>>>>>>>>>>> considerations. This ensures best decisions for the software >>>>>>>>>>>>> itself but also a long term maintenance of the software. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered >>>>>>>>>>>>> equal no matter your personal background, your education, ethnic >>>>>>>>>>>>> or nationality, every contribution is good to take. Community >>>>>>>>>>>>> members recognize that people skills may be different and >>>>>>>>>>>>> complementary to theirs. So contributions might come from anyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> from anywhere and in any form (blog post, documentation, talk, >>>>>>>>>>>>> code, website...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents >>>>>>>>>>>>> to join their forces. Be welcoming is always very important to >>>>>>>>>>>>> build and grow a community. The Open Source community is also a >>>>>>>>>>>>> great place for people to grow. The way people collaborate is >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally by mentoring. Experienced contributors help new comers >>>>>>>>>>>>> or experts share their thoughts with others. It is really also a >>>>>>>>>>>>> good way for mentors to share their passion and inspire >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentorees. Mentoring is even in the DNA of the ASF starting with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the incubator >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when the podling community profits from the experience and >>>>>>>>>>>>> advice of a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become a top >>>>>>>>>>>>> level project >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but only >>>>>>>>>>>>> technical leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated and I >>>>>>>>>>>>> must say that it is the best form of motivation ever! Decision >>>>>>>>>>>>> making is both simple and efficient: there is no solely decision, >>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback is always very important. People are willing to share >>>>>>>>>>>>> their thoughts and solve the problems together. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Community members are always benevolent: they are always >>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, accept >>>>>>>>>>>>> change requests or bug tickets. People are wiling to accept >>>>>>>>>>>>> criticism without being defensive. The master word is >>>>>>>>>>>>> transparency. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Last but not least, people behave friendly: public >>>>>>>>>>>>> communication (one of the ASF master words is "what did not >>>>>>>>>>>>> happen publicly never happened") forces people to communicate in >>>>>>>>>>>>> a positive way: for example by asking questions or suggesting >>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than affirming or asking for thoughts rather than >>>>>>>>>>>>> disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source contributor always tries to >>>>>>>>>>>>> put himself in the other person's shoes, trying to not hurt his >>>>>>>>>>>>> feelings and to not demotivate him. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the way >>>>>>>>>>>>> we all would like people and society in >>>>>>>>>>>>> general to behave, no ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Daily life >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some >>>>>>>>>>>>> years of applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt >>>>>>>>>>>>> almost like a religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, you start >>>>>>>>>>>>> applying it to daily life outside of work. It becomes your >>>>>>>>>>>>> standard way of behaving in society: meritocracy becomes a second >>>>>>>>>>>>> nature, for example you reward your home builders with gifts and >>>>>>>>>>>>> public credit because they did a good job, you reward your kids >>>>>>>>>>>>> for good school work etc... You also start to give time to others >>>>>>>>>>>>> and share your knowledge, mentoring becomes a second nature. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Another big thing which is very visible is that you now always >>>>>>>>>>>>> take good care to give positive communication, leading to >>>>>>>>>>>>> positive and constructive thinking. Positivism also becomes a >>>>>>>>>>>>> second nature. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit >>>>>>>>>>>>> never expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or >>>>>>>>>>>>> become a PMC member >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or even an ASF member >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs for >>>>>>>>>>>>> your whole career. This is an incredible credit and a tremendous >>>>>>>>>>>>> trust mark ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can be a bit challenging >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> temper a bit: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> felt intimidated. Community members are generally very senior >>>>>>>>>>>>> level and very high skilled developers. But, remember what is >>>>>>>>>>>>> written above: every contribution is good to take. And, with time >>>>>>>>>>>>> and mentoring, everyone deserves his place inside the community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to >>>>>>>>>>>>> find where to start: some projects are old enough to have a large >>>>>>>>>>>>> community so the amount of code is pretty high. But here again >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you pointers on hot >>>>>>>>>>>>> topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need maintenance. >>>>>>>>>>>>> And within time, you'll be recognized as an expert in a given >>>>>>>>>>>>> area and the exciting subjects will come to you. And if you feel >>>>>>>>>>>>> like you want to join a smaller community try joining a project >>>>>>>>>>>>> which is still in the incubator >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>>>> phase ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the envy >>>>>>>>>>>>> to join a Open Source community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and your views ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache" and I can definitely link to the ASF blog post in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal blog so that there is only one publishing place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant. So I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> propose that we just link an article about the Apache Way at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of my article. Do you have a good link to send me ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> article, that was indeed the whole point of the article ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go-around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'd post in one place. If not we can always promote it on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter and LinkedIn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from describing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Apache Way" and focus on your experience instead. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Way has been covered, at length, already. I'd focus on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what your success looks like. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be great. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jzb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <echauc...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bertrand! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> blog post ? ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I don't have decision power on what's published in "Success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > at Apache" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > but I'd say go for it! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > if they're >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > not convinced there's lots of other places where you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > post. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Bertrand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>>>>>> j...@apache.org >>>> >> >
