Thank you, Etienne.

Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience.

Best,
Sally

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The Apache Software Foundation

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> Hi Sally,
> 
> Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can review my 
> article and post it on Success at Apache blog ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Best
> 
> Etienne
> 
> Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article draft you 
>> wanted that I sent last week ?
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Etienne
>> 
>> Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
>>> Hi Joe,
>>> 
>>> Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need to discuss 
>>> the content of this article. 
>>> 
>>> When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the Success at 
>>> Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Etienne
>>> 
>>> Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>> 
>>>> Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and tell me if 
>>>> I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my personnal blog also 
>>>> (through a link to the ASF) .
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> 
>>>> Etienne
>>>> 
>>>> title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?*
>>>> 
>>>> **
>>>> 
>>>> 🕥 7 min.
>>>> 
>>>> Introducion
>>>> 
>>>>     I have been working in software engineering for more than 15 years. 
>>>> I've always contributed to Open Source software as a user or a coder. But 
>>>> I've been contributing to ASF 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  projects such as Apache Flink 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
>>>>  Apache Beam 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  or Apache Spark 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  for nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I find *the 
>>>> Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate on software engineering.
>>>> 
>>>>     I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of good 
>>>> content about that already. I will rather link to the official Apache 
>>>> documentation 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
>>>>  I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it already. 
>>>> 
>>>>     My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache Way as I 
>>>> see them. Of course, every Apache community is different, but what I 
>>>> wanted to emphasize is that applying the Apache Way by the book could lead 
>>>> to what I'd call a "perfect society" even if this word seems a bit naive 
>>>> and over optimistic or even utopian.
>>>> 
>>>> A perfect society
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !*
>>>> 
>>>> The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities behave like a 
>>>> sort of perfect society: 
>>>> 
>>>>     The community is governed by merit: everything is about what you do 
>>>> inside the community and at some point your efforts are noted and you get 
>>>> credit for your work by obtaining more rights (direct access to the 
>>>> project repositories, election of committers 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and voting for 
>>>> the best one leads to the best possible state of the project in the end. 
>>>> The best idea always wins in the long term.
>>>> 
>>>>     The software is not driven by money: no private concerns should take 
>>>> over. When the incubation process is well advanced, before graduation, the 
>>>> ASF bord 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users and 
>>>> developers communities are big enough), healthy and also not owned by a 
>>>> single company and its private financial considerations. This ensures best 
>>>> decisions for the software itself but also a long term maintenance of the 
>>>> software.
>>>> 
>>>>     It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered equal no 
>>>> matter your personal background, your education, ethnic or nationality, 
>>>> every contribution is good to take. Community members recognize that 
>>>> people skills may be different and complementary to theirs. So 
>>>> contributions might come from anyone, from anywhere and in any form (blog 
>>>> post, documentation, talk, code, website...)
>>>> 
>>>>     Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents to join 
>>>> their forces. Be welcoming is always very important to build and grow a 
>>>> community. The Open Source community is also a great place for people to 
>>>> grow. The way people collaborate is generally by mentoring. Experienced 
>>>> contributors help new comers or experts share their thoughts with others. 
>>>> It is really also a good way for mentors to share their passion and 
>>>> inspire mentorees. Mentoring is even in the DNA of the ASF starting with 
>>>> the incubator 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  when the podling community profits from the experience and advice of a 
>>>> mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become a top level project 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>     Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but only technical 
>>>> leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated and I must say that it is 
>>>> the best form of motivation ever! Decision making is both simple and 
>>>> efficient: there is no solely decision, feedback is always very important. 
>>>> People are willing to share their thoughts and solve the problems together.
>>>> 
>>>>     Community members are always benevolent: they are always willing to 
>>>> share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, accept change requests or 
>>>> bug tickets. People are wiling to accept criticism without being 
>>>> defensive. The master word is transparency. 
>>>> 
>>>>     Last but not least, people behave friendly: public communication (one 
>>>> of the ASF master words is "what did not happen publicly never happened") 
>>>> forces people to communicate in a positive way: for example by asking 
>>>> questions or suggesting rather than affirming or asking for thoughts 
>>>> rather than disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source contributor always tries 
>>>> to put himself in the other person's shoes, trying to not hurt his 
>>>> feelings and to not demotivate him.
>>>> 
>>>> => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the way we all 
>>>> would like people and society in
>>>> general to behave, no ?
>>>> 
>>>> Daily life
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some years of 
>>>> applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt almost like a 
>>>> religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, you start applying it to daily 
>>>> life outside of work. It becomes your standard way of behaving in society: 
>>>> meritocracy becomes a second nature, for example you reward your home 
>>>> builders with gifts and public credit because they did a good job, you 
>>>> reward your kids for good school work etc... You also start to give time 
>>>> to others and share your knowledge, mentoring becomes a second nature.  
>>>> Another big thing which is very visible is that you now always take good 
>>>> care to give positive communication, leading to positive and constructive 
>>>> thinking. Positivism also becomes a second nature.
>>>> 
>>>>     On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit never 
>>>> expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or become a PMC 
>>>> member 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  or even an ASF member 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
>>>>  it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs for your 
>>>> whole career. This is an incredible credit and a tremendous trust mark !
>>>> 
>>>> Can be a bit challenging
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to temper a bit:
>>>> 
>>>>     I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I felt 
>>>> intimidated. Community members are generally very senior level and very 
>>>> high skilled developers. But, remember what is written above: every 
>>>> contribution is good to take. And, with time and mentoring, everyone 
>>>> deserves his place inside the community.
>>>> 
>>>>     The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to find where 
>>>> to start: some projects are old enough to have a large community so the 
>>>> amount of code is pretty high. But here again mentoring comes into play: 
>>>> mentors can give you pointers on hot topics, starter tickets or simply 
>>>> areas that need maintenance. And within time, you'll be recognized as an 
>>>> expert in a given area and the exciting subjects will come to you. And if 
>>>> you feel like you want to join a smaller community try joining a project 
>>>> which is still in the incubator 
>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
>>>>  phase !
>>>> 
>>>> Conclusion
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the envy to join 
>>>> a Open Source community.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your answer and your views !
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, after 
>>>>> review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success at Apache" and I can 
>>>>> definitely link to the ASF blog post in my personal blog so that there is 
>>>>> only one publishing place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers to be 
>>>>> informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant. So I propose that 
>>>>> we just link an article about the Apache Way at the beginning of my 
>>>>> article. Do you have a good link to send me ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the article, that 
>>>>> was indeed the whole point of the article !
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Etienne.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Etienne,  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first go-around.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally we'd post 
>>>>>> in one place. If not we can always promote it on Twitter and LinkedIn. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from describing "The 
>>>>>> Apache Way" and focus on your experience instead. The Apache Way has 
>>>>>> been covered, at length, already. I'd focus on what your success looks 
>>>>>> like. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success would be great. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> jzb
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Bertrand!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog post and send a 
>>>>>>> link here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
>>>>>>> > Hi Etienne,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot 
>>>>>>> > <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit :
>>>>>>> >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing the blog post 
>>>>>>> >> ? ...
>>>>>>> > I don't have decision power on what's published in "Success at Apache"
>>>>>>> > but I'd say go for it!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, and if they're
>>>>>>> > not convinced there's lots of other places where you can post.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -Bertrand
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>>>>>> j...@apache.org

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