On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 03:08, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to suggest how we can improve the new committer onboarding  
> process by changing the standard committer invitation email. This is after 
> the new committer has been voted on and if PMC membership is offered, after 
> the board has been notified with 72 hour notice.
>
> This will eventually become a patch to
> https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/blob/master/source/newcommitter.md
>
> The big change is that the committer is asked to tell the PMC if they are 
> already a committer or if they have already submitted an ICLA. This should 
> reduce the back-n-forth among PMC-committer-secretary-root.
>
> Please let me know what you think. If this seems like a good idea, we can ask 
> PMCs to update their onboarding processes.
>
> Craig
>
> ### Committer Invite Template
> This is the suggested invitation email to send to the newly elected committer,
> sent after a positive result from the PMC vote for a new committer.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------
>     To: joeblo...@foo.net
>     Cc: private@[PROJECT].apache.org
>     Subject: Invitation to become [PROJECT] committer: Joe Bloggs
>
>     Hello [invitee name],
>
>     The [Project] Project Management Committee] (PMC)
>     hereby offers you committer privileges to the project
>     [as well as membership in the PMC]. These privileges are
>     offered on the understanding that you'll use them
>     reasonably and with common sense. We like to work on trust
>     rather than unnecessary constraints.
>
>     Being a committer enables you to more easily make
>     changes without needing to go through the patch
>     submission process. [Being a PMC member enables you
>     to guide the direction of the project.]

A PMC member involves a lot more than just guiding the direction of the project.

The prospective member needs to be told what is expected of PMC
members so they can make
an informed decision.

>     Being a committer does not require you to
>     participate any more than you already do. It does
>     tend to make one even more committed.  You will
>     probably find that you spend more time here.

Being a PMC member DOES require additional participation ...

>     Of course, you can decline and instead remain as a
>     contributor, participating as you do now.
>
>     A. This personal invitation is a chance for you to
>     accept or decline in private.  Either way, please
>     let us know in reply only to the [priv...@project.apache.org]

"in reply only" does not read well.

>     address.
>
>     B. If you accept, the next step is to get an Apache id:
>         • If you are already a committer on another project, reply to this 
> message and let us know your Apache id and we will set you up with commit 
> privileges [and put you on the PMC roster].

"let us know" - who is "us" ?

>         • If you have earlier submitted an ICLA, reply to this message and 
> let us know the Public name under which you submitted your ICLA. We will then 
> request your account. If the email address you entered on the ICLA is no 
> longer appropriate, submit a new ICLA with the new email address. See the 
> next bullet for details.

The Public Name is not necessarily unique. It would be better to ask
for the email address.

>         • If you have not yet submitted an ICLA, reply to this message 
> indicating your acceptance and plans to submit your ICLA.
>
> Then, forward this message to secret...@apache.org and attach your ICLA 
> document. Do not cc: the project, as this unnecessarily exposes your 
> Personally Identifiable Information.
> This will allow the Secretary to easily verify that you have been invited to 
> become a committer. Be sure to put your requested Apache id and the project 
> name on the ICLA form. This will allow the Secretary to request your account 
> and notify the project directly. Within a few days you will receive 
> instructions for logging in and changing your password.
>
> Details of the iCLA and instructions for submitting the forms are found here: 
> https://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
> https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#submitting
>
> C. When creation of your account is noted, you will receive a follow-up 
> message with next steps.
>
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>

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