FWIW, I'm not in favor of this if it's some kind of resume builder.
This is the Community Development list. The places where I have seen
badges done effectively, it's about community participation, not about
any kind of "certification" or "authentication". It's about fun. It's
about "community > code".
Here's the badges I have earned at Fedora:
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/rcb
Yes, some of them are about patches/contributions, which are awesome
things to celebrate. Others are about attending events, running a Fedora
booth at an event, and so on. Mine tend to be pretty event-centric,
since that's my job.
Here's one of my favorites:
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/rollercoaster-restaurant
The idea that you would use this system to *verify* anything makes it
completely uninteresting to me. The purpose of badge systems is
celebration! Fun! Silliness!
I imagine badges like:
* Had drinks with Greg Stein at ApacheCon
* Sat at the Infra table at ApacheCon.
* Served as track chair at an ApacheCon!
(Can you tell I like ApacheCon?) Also, these ones can be accompanied by
a physical sticker that you hand out at events. Or achievement coin type
things.
* Answered 10 questions on a users@ mailing list!
* Reviewed a patch and gave helpful feedback!
* RM'ed a release!
Perhaps some more serious ones ...
* Mentored a podling
* Voted on a podling release
* Vetoed a podling release (Looking at you, Justin!) ;-)
If y'all want LinkedIn, I can tell you where to find it.
FWIW, this idea has been proposed before, and has never made it very far
*specifically* because people want to take it too seriously.
We want badges that are easy to obtain, and ones that are hard to
obtain. Things like "Served as President" would obviously be pretty
rare. Hopefully answering questions on a users list is something that
we've all done. Gamification works really well for some people, and not
so well for others, and THAT'S OK.
On 4/6/21 6:16 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote:
Please allow me to clarify.
The badge is a certification method that can’t be fudged, not an award if
any kind.
Being apart of the ASF is it’s own award. This is just a certified badge
that proves it and can’t be fudged like a “Microsoft certified” graphic,
for example.
I can claim ASF membership, I’m not a member, but a committer, and in my
own attic-ed podling (new podling proposals coming soon).
It’s not only good for community development, but validating ASF
participation digitally using digital certification methods.
The badge is also a method to verify membership/participation status
programmatically via an infra API (tie into LDAP maybe?)
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:22 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here are my 0.2 cents.
On one side, some people will like this idea to show how much they did for
the open-source and ASF projects. It would be a big encouragement for
people around them. From this perspective, it is good for community
development.
On the other hand, this could be treated as a kind of award, and people and
companies are going to over-marketing these again and again. Like comparing
which project has more stars, contributors, issues. Like have been
mentioned, this could be harmful to the contributors doing the open-source
for fun in the free time and join and go randomly.
My idea is, don't take this as an official one from the foundation level.
Committer and PMC membership should have been enough.
Some projects provide this kind of things because their PMC(or called core
maintainer team) usually don't accept individual or people working in the
free time as a member of PMC, but this is not the case in ASF.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Matthew Sacks <matt...@matthewsacks.com> 于2021年4月5日周一 下午4:42写道：
Summary: Digital Merit badges
ASF participation and responsibility are based on merit. So like other
merit-based organizations, why not have a digital merit badge. It would
slow your name and summarize your involvement and contributions
(volunteer,
committer, member, board member, founding member, etc.).
Also, what projects you work on.
Other examples of design: Trust Certification badges:
https://trustarc.com/truste-certifications/enterprise-privacy-certification/
What it’s not: social score, that’s not what I’m proposing.
If an ASF member, committee, and volunteer involvement are based on
merit,
why not have a digital merit badge that shows what they’ve done?
Like other organizations based on merit, there are usually badges
recognizing one's contributions to that contributor.
I’m thinking to list the following on the badge:
- committer, member, volunteer, board member, founder, etc
- year joined
If you click the badge, it will take you to a profile page with:
- Projects they contribute/contributed to
- Apachcon participation, presentations, etc
- Apache.org personal homepage (if they have one)
From a marketing perspective, it also expands the ASF “brand” and
reputation. You have many of the best software engineers and IT
professionals in the world helping make better software available to
commercial companies as well as public organizations and individuals
If LinkedIn displayed a dynamically generated badge validated by an
ASF-hosted infra API (blockchain validated) on Roy Fielding or JimJag’s
LinkedIn page, for example, wouldn’t that be of interest in expanding ASF
reach? It could increase volunteering, donations, page views, and more
benefits.
Not just LinkedIn, but maybe RedHat, Microsoft, maybe Apple (probably
not),
Oracle, IBM, AWS, Google could get a Platinum sponsor badge to show their
pride for supporting the ASF as a major corporation. More corporations
will
follow suit.
Thoughts?
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Thank you, Matthew
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