No, the ASF will not provide legal advice for this. But have you considered getting a 3rd person involved, and having a viable PMC instead? -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:22 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, > > I make sure we do our best to comply to the distributed works clauses. > Would there be a way to have the result checked by Apache? > > > > > On October 22, 2020 at 16:14:20, Mark Thomas (ma...@apache.org) wrote: > > Hi, > > Putting on my VP Brand Hat... > > On one level, forking is easy - just follow the terms of the ALv2. The > TL;DR version is as Bertrand describes, copy the code, change the name, > keep the NOTICE file (which credits the ASF) and job done. > > The above is an over simplification for most cases. For example, if the > code is Java code then it really needs to move out of the org.apache > namespace ASAP but that can create backwards compatibility issues. > > The possibility *may* exist where you can keep the name. i.e. if the > code is "Apache Foo" you *might* be able to continue to call it "Foo" > (there is no way you can continue to use "Apache Foo"). > > If you are interested in exploring the possibility of continuing to use > the "Foo" name, please drop an email to tradema...@apache.org with > specific details of the (sub-)project we are talking about and we can > see what the options are (everything is a case-by-case basis for this > sort of thing). > > Mark > > > On 22/10/2020 17:18, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 6:08 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ...I am on the PMC of an Apache project that looks like it is heading to > the > >> attic. We have a sub project that I and at least one other committer > would > >> like to fork out of Apache in order to continue development.... > > > > One similar case that I remember is iBatis back in 2010, see [1] and > > [2] - others might have more information, there's probably been other > > cases among the projects listed at http://attic.apache.org/ > > > > I think the key element is trademark, the ASF license allows forking > > but project names belong to the ASF. > > > > -Bertrand > > > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ed0193921b211d8c1a6756859624b89445e46db8ffeaea14455e78f3%401274428444%40%3Cdev.ibatis.apache.org%3E > > > > [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/iBATIS.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >
