Hi,

Putting on my VP Brand Hat...

On one level, forking is easy - just follow the terms of the ALv2. The
TL;DR version is as Bertrand describes, copy the code, change the name,
keep the NOTICE file (which credits the ASF) and job done.

The above is an over simplification for most cases. For example, if the
code is Java code then it really needs to move out of the org.apache
namespace ASAP but that can create backwards compatibility issues.

The possibility *may* exist where you can keep the name. i.e. if the
code is "Apache Foo" you *might* be able to continue to call it "Foo"
(there is no way you can continue to use "Apache Foo").

If you are interested in exploring the possibility of continuing to use
the "Foo" name, please drop an email to tradema...@apache.org with
specific details of the (sub-)project we are talking about and we can
see what the options are (everything is a case-by-case basis for this
sort of thing).

Mark


On 22/10/2020 17:18, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 6:08 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...I am on the PMC of an Apache project that looks like it is heading to the
>> attic. We have a sub project that I and at least one other committer would
>> like to fork out of Apache in order to continue development....
> 
> One similar case that I remember is iBatis back in 2010, see [1] and
> [2] - others might have more information, there's probably been other
> cases among the projects listed at http://attic.apache.org/
> 
> I think the key element is trademark, the ASF license allows forking
> but project names belong to the ASF.
> 
> -Bertrand
> 
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ed0193921b211d8c1a6756859624b89445e46db8ffeaea14455e78f3%401274428444%40%3Cdev.ibatis.apache.org%3E
> 
> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/iBATIS.html
> 
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