If you need volunteers, please count me in as well. Thanks, Aizhamal
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:33 AM Ross Gardler <rgard...@outlook.com> wrote: > I'm in > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:07:59 AM > To: Apache Community Dev > Subject: Re: on "meritocracy" > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:37 AM Griselda Cuevas > <g...@google.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > Another thing we should consider is creating a D&I council, PMC, working > > group (or something alike) for the ASF, and I'd love to be part of it. > > > > Now, I have to share my feelings with discussions on this list. > Sometimes I > > struggle to understand when a conversation is ready for action. I feel > like > > I've seen so many great ideas, and I don't have visibility into when they > > start to happen or when I should start working on things. This time I'm > > offering to lead... so how could I do it? > > TL;DR: identify a list of tangible deliverables, and I'll help you > make it happen. > > Longer answer: > > Organizationally, this could be one of the things that is done under > the comdev umbrella, it could be something that reports to the > president, or it could be something that reports to the board. > > The third option requires a board resolution. The middle option is > less clear, but in such cases we err on the side of clarity so a board > resolution would be prepared. No board interaction is required for > the first option, though a notification in the next board report would > be in order. > > Operationally, this would start pretty much the way everything starts > at the ASF: with the creation of a mailing list. What this will be is > a quieter place where people who actually want to do the work get > together and make it happen. I will caution you that often times, > those people don't show up, and this ultimately means that it becomes > a place to ideas go to die. And I will say that similar efforts have > died this way in the past. > > Part of what makes PMCs work is that they have a tangle product (code) > and deliverables (releases). This helps keep things focused. > > Outside of the Code of Conduct, focus is not a word I would use to > characterize most of the discussions to date on diversity. We need to > fix that. > > So... if we (and by that I'm specifically looking for volunteers) can > identify tangible work products and there is a commitment to provide > written monthly status reports detailing progress towards the > production of those work products, I am prepared to support the > creation of an officer and committee responsible. I don't believe > that this committee needs board authority (at least not yet), and Ross > and I both clearly are interested in making this work. This leads me > to recommend a path of the creation of a President's committee. > > Circling back, board resolutions are generally evaluated monthly (out > of band is possible, but there is no reason here to force the issue). > The schedule is here: > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsvn.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fprivate%2Fcommitters%2Fboard%2Fcalendar.txt&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6df6d7c6edd6470db09808d6b460c3d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894725021001648&sdata=TWlEfYaE1iNFNghHa3IJwZMvew%2B3FfqWVsVlFxQK6%2FA%3D&reserved=0 > > While shooting for April is definitely possible, I would recommend > shooting for May. And the setting up of a mailing list doesn't need > to wait for the board resolution - if there is sufficient progress, I > can ask the infrastructure team to make it happen. > > - Sam Ruby > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy* Open Source Program Manager 646-355-9740 Mobile 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
