Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I read the quoted text but don't understand exactly what it is that > you are suggesting, an example would probably help.
Example -- the one that started this thread: * somebody wants to ask every project for its best project logo (a public matter); * they write "Dear PMCs ..." to all projects' *private* mailing lists. Problem and assumptions: * the request really ought to go to the project communities; * the initiator (I'm guessing / generalizing) thinks the PMCs are appropriate representatives of their communities AND knows an easy way to email all the PMCs AND possibly has a fear of addressing a wider audience than PMC members; * the request goes to the private lists, more or less by accident as result of the foregoing, especially as a result of one particular obvious-looking address*; * the initiator may not even realize that's where their message went. Solution: * make it more difficult to email all projects' private lists and easier to email all projects' public lists; * despite some people's reservations, contacting dev lists does seem to be the consensus; see 2b below; * make it more clear what any obvious-looking address* is actually for. PRIMARY PROPOSAL: 1a. drop the existing four-letter obvious-looking address* - because its name is misleading which (I think) leads people to mis-use it. 1b. create an easier way to email all the projects about a public matter - introduce an obvious-looking address* that contains '-public', that goes to all dev lists; more details in my earlier mail; Additional proposals: 2a. document some guidelines on how to mass-email dev lists without upsetting recipients, as have been noted elsewhere in this thread. 2b. add a way to contact all PMCs about a private matter, - perhaps an obvious-looking address* that contains '-private' - ONLY if needed: this might be sufficiently rare as to not be needed; (* By request, to try to reduce spam, I'm deliberately obfuscating the "obvious-looking address". I'm sorry that that makes it harder to follow. See start of thread for plain disclosure.) -- - Julian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org