On 12/21/2016 08:32 AM, A. Soroka wrote:
> Not to say that this isn't a good first step, but that is definitely not 
> going to capture a lot of important engagement. At Apache Jena we recently 
> elected an excellent committer who has never made a single commit. Instead we 
> elected him to recognize his fantastic involvement with the community 
> answering questions and helping new users.
> 
> I'm not sure what to do about that (measurement-wise) but perhaps as a future 
> move, the base list of committers for a project could be joined against stats 
> from the mailing lists for that project?
> 

Yes, this was my point exactly. Thanks for articulating. Probably would
need to combine mlist + commit + tickets + ... other stuff? Some
communities have active contributors who spend their time answering
questions on IRC, G+, Facebook, StackOverflow, etc.

--Rich



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> A. Soroka
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2016 03:09 AM, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote:
>>> On Tue, December 20, 2016 17:11, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2016 08:36 AM, Sharan F wrote:
>>>>> Hello Everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> A big thank you to everyone that has helped or participated in getting
>>>>> the Committer Diversity Survey out, and also to all the committers that
>>>>> responded to the survey. It has been really good to be able to collect
>>>>> this information and see what it tells us about our committer base.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've loaded the main data and graphs from the survey onto the Community
>>>>> Development wiki (see link below)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF+Committer+Diversity+Survey+-+2016
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In total we received 765 responses (out of a 5861 committer base at the
>>>>> time the survey was run) so around a 13% response rate.
>>>>
>>>> It would be useful to pursue Niclas' assertion that most of our
>>>> registered committers are inactive. I'd think that if we define
>>>> "inactive" in some measurable way, we could determine some actual
>>>> numbers around that.
>>>
>>> Since everything these days is going through LDAP it should be possible to
>>> get e.g. last login timestamp. Maybe reach out to infra?
>>
>> Sure, if that's our definition of "active". Likewise, if "commit" is our
>> definition of "active", that seems easy too. I tend to think that
>> "active" is a bit more complex, but either one of those would give us a
>> good first estimate.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
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