On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> The example of I gave with Brett -- clearly the ASF community was the
> one bestowing that title. Now, quite contrary to the semantics game that
> Ross
> was playing with 'what is an official title anyway?' -- I'd say that
> at that point
> it becomes one of Brett's official titles. Which means that even if
> there's a
> *corporate* announcement of him doing an event he can be billed as:
>    Bret, Developer at Apache Maven
>
> Can we agree on that?
>

To clarify what I am about to agree with:

    Titles bestowed by the community can be used by the individuals to
reference themselves
    Titles bestowed by companies should not include Apache trademarks

I agree with this and I think it is the same as what Roman said.

The only problem is that our projects rarely acknowledge really strong
advocates.  For a specific instance, Ellen Friedman (note personal
connection with me) was made a committer by Mahout for community
development efforts while Drill has not recognized even more extensive
efforts on their part.  Any developer putting in a tenth as much time as
she does would have long ago been made a committer and PMC member.  But
that means that she can't claim any official Drill status while promoting
Drill (because she doesn't have any).

One consequence is that people doing this sort of work get mightily
discouraged.

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