I'm on a real computer now, so I've taken another look at the deck you shared. It brings up a few questions:
Where is the data stored? For example, slide 6 shows he "Offices" tab, this has buttons for creating new members, offices, officers, projects etc. Where is this data stored and how does it get into LDAP where it currently needs to be? Remember, this data drives a whole load of infrastructure already we can't simply move it, it would have significant knock-on effects to much of our infrastructure. Furthermore, what are the benefits of changing the way we create and edit this data? Have those benefits been drawn up in consultation with infra and the secretary who are currently tasked with maintaining the data? As I understand it Daniel's proposal is limited to presentation of this data. Your proposal goes a step further and I'm not sure that the need to take that extra step has been identified by those responsible for managing those processes. Please correct me if I'm wrong. On the other hand, those responsible for fundraising and trademarks have identified a need to improve their data collection and management. I assume Sally has her tools that she uses for media but they are not here at the ASF and we have no visibility into that data. Whimsy is a tool that is definitely needed by the board and is functional. I don't hear anyone complaining about it, but there is a single individual maintaining it. All I'm suggesting is that this might be an ideal opportunity to divide and conquer. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -----Original Message----- From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:25 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal Like INFRA is expected to host/support svn instances, etc. All dependant on the requirements of the ASF. OFBiz is the open source business enablement suite of the ASF (the works - as a result of the project being an ASF), though primarily advertised as an ERP/E-Commerce solution by the project. What kind of requirements do think about when considering 'that any ComDev member who wants to help out needs to learn OfBiz'? You are thinking of how to use it? Or are your thoughts tending towards development? Prior to creating the presentation ( http://www.slideshare.net/pierresmits/ofbiz-4-the-asf) I created a new 'community' application working out the PoC and functionality approaches and that was done easily. As easy was converting some of the publicly available data regarding projects and persons and importing it. And that I used to get the screenshots used in the presentation. Yes, OFBiz can also be used for and within other functions/domains of the ASF. As was raised in the recent past regarding fund raising and the book store. But also regarding the tracking and tracing of the promotional materials of the ASF to 3rd party event organisers. How it is used within the ASF is up to the board and its committees. You seem to be suggesting in your last sentence that OFBiz (within the ASF) should be used for the unstructured information and the associated processes of the ASF. For sure, there are other solutions available within the ASF portfolio that cater such requirements better. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > This requires that infra maintain a running instance of OfBiz and that > any ComDev member who wants to help out needs to learn OfBiz. Have you > consulted with infra? Can ComDev members be expected to learn OfBiz in > order to make a small tweak? > > It seems to me that whilst the extra functionality discussed here > would be very valuable there is a much steeper path to build g > something maintainable. > > I'd like to see approach this as a separate proposal from > projects.apache.org work. OFbiz is likely to be useful to the Board > and various foundation commitees and for this reason I don't see > ComDev as being the right home or projects.apache.org being the right target. > > As I said when you originally raised this I would recommend focusing > on a committee that tracks other data, data that is not currently well > structured. Trademarks, media, fundraising and whimsy.apache.org are > all examples. > > Ross > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone
