On Monday, 10 February 2014, Joseph Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nevertheless there is something to be said for groups > who do adjourn when they've actually finished something. > Taking a break is an important part of the typical community > dynamics. > > Yes, I agree... OTOH if a project *wants* to work that way we should find a way to let them learn the value of taking a break every now and again ;-) > > On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > On Monday, 10 February 2014, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > >>> So, I could ask, what's special about 72 hours? > >> > >> It was to prevent things from sneaking out during a weekend > > > > > > So the release vote is scheduled for mid-week so that holiday weekends > > won't come into play... Ok you'll have St Patrick's day falling on the > > release day every 7 years or so... Same for the 4th of July and other > > national holidays but if that affects the vast bulk of the PMC then the > PMC > > has a diversity problem ;-) > > > > > >> by a secret cabal when people are otherwise engaged... > > > > > > I also am assuming that the test suite for a release vote is either good > or > > slow... If good it will catch problems... If slow then the RC will have > > been cut several hours before the vote is called... Further extending the > > time for people to register a "fall back to 72h" vote because you can see > > the "dodgy" commit of the cabal going in 6h before the release vote so > that > > the test suite can start on the RC > > > > I don't think you can do fast cadence without tooling support or you will > > burn out the PMC and community... So to my mind tooling is a necessary > > requirement... These are not a set of isolated independent things... They > > are a combination of changes that conspire to find a second local minimum > > to the problem set, just a local min that has releases every week > > > > ;-) > > > > > >> Plus, > >> again, based on the old adage that people who are involved > >> are doing so *as volunteers*, and, as volunteers, there avail > >> cycles would ebb and flow, 72 hours was/is a nice compromise > >> to allow for semi-quick decisions but still enough time > >> so that people didn't consider all this effort as work, > >> instead of fun. > >> > > > > It can be fun getting your changes released every week and getting > feedback > > from users... > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my phone > > -- Sent from my phone
