> On Nov 1, 2025, at 5:05 PM, Piotr P. Karwasz <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
>> On 1.11.2025 22:29, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> As PMC members it is our collective responsibility to review
>> commits.  Having them bundled into PRs doesn't make that any easier,
>> IMO.  At the end of the day, the commits are the changes.  The best
>> thing we can do - not just here, but in every OSS community - is to
>> get more eyeballs on code.  That means building communities.
>> Byzantine processes make that harder.
> 
> It’s great to have many eyes on the code, but in practice, that doesn’t
> seem to be happening. Either every commit is flawless, or nobody is
> actually reviewing them, since responses on `commits@` are extremely rare.
> 
> The main problem with relying solely on `commits@` is that there’s no
> visibility into whether a commit has already been reviewed (and silently
> approved) or if it hasn’t been looked at at all. In reality, it’s very
> likely that many commits go through without any real review.

Agreed that is a big problem.  Self-merged PRs won’t help that.

Phil
> 
> Piotr
> 
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