Le mar. 21 oct. 2025 à 23:59, sebb <[email protected]> a écrit : > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 at 18:09, Gilles Sadowski <[email protected]> wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > > The Project logotype must use the word "Apache", not "The ASF" > > > > This is not true. Quoting Mark Thomas (VP "Trademarks"): > > ---CUT--- > > My very strong recommendation is that if a project wants to include the > > project name in their logo then they either use > > "<Project>" > > or > > "Apache <Project>" > > and do not use > > "ASF <Project>" > > ---CUT--- > > > > As argued on JIRA, I strongly favour "Commons" > > However Mark also said[1]: > > ---CUT--- > There are a small number of projects where registering the bare name > would be challenging (Commons is one of them). > Using the name full name "Apache Commons" allows the Commons project > to gain the protection afforded by our registrations of the Apache > mark. > ---CUT---
Neither the ASF nor anyone else should feel entitled to claim ownership of the word "commons". > If we drop the Apache prefix then this protection will not be available. Are you (and Mark) saying that the "Apache Commons" _project_ will be at risk if our _logo_ does not contain the word "Apache"? Which "protection" are you talking about? What is the "risk" of "commons" being used in other contexts? Why would you even think of preventing that? Of course, there is a restriction to other entities using "Apache Commons" because this is the registered trademark of this project; my understanding is that it holds whatever the logo may be. I want to be consistent with the rationale that led to the (ASF) logo change. Limiting the use of "Apache" to the strict minimum is the right thing to do. A logo does not need to contain "Apache" any more than it needs to contain "Commons". For that matter, a really original graphical logo would likely be much easier to protect than a wordmark that is an English word. Gilles > > Sebb > [1] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-179?focusedCommentId=18031079&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-18031079 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
