On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 at 18:09, Gilles Sadowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I get that this is a release-in-a-hurry in order to stop using a
> non-compliant wordmark.
> This can only be a temporary logo given a discussion is taking
> place there:
>   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-179
>
> Le mar. 21 oct. 2025 à 17:39, Alex Herbert <[email protected]> a écrit 
> :
> >
> > Sorry, I was late for the review. Nit pick. The Apache and Commons
> > words are not aligned left-justified. In the component logo the Apache
> > and Commons words are again not aligned left-justified but the Commons
> > and Component words are aligned left-justified. Given that the words
> > on each line are definitely not centre-aligned, it seems odd that they
> > are nearly but not actually left-aligned.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 at 13:57, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > [dev list only]
> > >
> > > The Apache Commons Skin team is pleased to announce the release of
> > > Apache Commons Skin 5.2.0.
> > >
> > > This is a feature and maintenance release. Java 8 or later is required.
> > >
> > > Changes in this version include:
> > >
> > > The Project logotype must use the word "Apache", not "The ASF"
>
> This is not true.  Quoting Mark Thomas (VP "Trademarks"):
> ---CUT---
> My very strong recommendation is that if a project wants to include the
> project name in their logo then they either use
>   "<Project>"
> or
>   "Apache <Project>"
> and do not use
>   "ASF <Project>"
> ---CUT---
>
> As argued on JIRA, I strongly favour "Commons"

However Mark also said[1]:

---CUT---
There are a small number of projects where registering the bare name
would be challenging (Commons is one of them).
Using the name full name "Apache Commons" allows the Commons project
to gain the protection afforded by our registrations of the Apache
mark.
---CUT---

If we drop the Apache prefix then this protection will not be available.

Sebb
[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-179?focusedCommentId=18031079&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-18031079

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