https://imgur.com/gGRHH5i
https://imgur.com/THMdel1
will try imgur

Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月29日周六 上午12:44写道:

> The PNG links yield Temporary Error (404).
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:31 PM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> the outcome is:
>> Eclipse users CAN use those annotations, but MUST install a
>> eclipse-plugin to detect those bugs and show them on screen.
>> (though both idea and eclipse users CAN choose to use maven plugin to do
>> it lol)
>>
>> The plugin is:
>> eclipse_2020-08-29_00-28-02.png
>> (14 K)
>>
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=40323997ff&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2567034696490897823&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_keegbc8a0>
>>
>>
>> and the outcome gui page is:
>> eclipse_2020-08-29_00-30-29.png
>> (236 K)
>>
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=40323997ff&attid=0.2&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2567034696490897823&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_keegd69v1>
>>
>>
>> Well, it seems at least usable :)
>>
>> Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午11:08写道:
>>
>>> >  Keep in mind that not everyone uses IJ, for example, I use Eclipse.
>>> Yep.
>>> And not every jetbrains library requires people use idea.
>>> I think Eclipse can supports those annotations.
>>> Let me, have a test :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午11:04写道:
>>>
>>>> Keep in mind that not everyone uses IJ, for example, I use Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:54 AM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > >  IntelliJ specifies Runtime retention so they can interact
>>>> > with IntelliJ's internal JRE, which adds additional assertions into
>>>> the
>>>> > code to enforce the annotations.
>>>> >
>>>> > seems never.
>>>> > see this demo repo.
>>>> > https://github.com/XenoAmess/demo_jetbrains_annotation
>>>> >
>>>> > And I looked up the sources and see every annotation classes be
>>>> > with RetentionPolicy.CLASS or RetentionPolicy.SOURCE
>>>> >
>>>> > HOWEVER, I was talking about org.jetbrainss.annotations.
>>>> > but for jsr305, which is google java codes, I will not be very
>>>> surprised if
>>>> > they have different ideas.
>>>> >
>>>> > Miguel Muñoz <swingguy1...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午1:54写道:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Good question. IntelliJ specifies Runtime retention so they can
>>>> interact
>>>> > > with IntelliJ's internal JRE, which adds additional assertions into
>>>> the
>>>> > > code to enforce the annotations. So even though they have Runtime
>>>> > > retention, they're still a development-phase tool. In production,
>>>> they
>>>> > > don't need to be retained at runtime. Personally, I never need the
>>>> > Runtime
>>>> > > retention feature, so if we write our own annotations, we can give
>>>> them
>>>> > > compile-time retention and they'll work fine. That's often how I
>>>> work. In
>>>> > > fact, I often use my own annotations, which don't have Runtime
>>>> retention,
>>>> > > and they work fine, so I don't miss that feature.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > — Miguel Muñoz
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jochen Wiedmann <
>>>> > > jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:08 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > AFAIK that means Maven won't download the dependency.
>>>> > > > > Surely that makes it harder for the developer?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > No, it means that Maven won't add the dependency to a
>>>> distribution.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > However, I've got a question: These annotations have
>>>> > > > @Retention(Runtime). (See
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.javadoc.io/doc/com.google.code.findbugs/jsr305/latest/javax/annotation/Nullable.html
>>>> > > > .)
>>>> > > > Aren't we enforcing the presence of the respective jar at runtime?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Jochen
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think
>>>> before
>>>> > > > you break 'em.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >     -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
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>>>>
>>>

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