@Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
the outcome is:
Eclipse users CAN use those annotations, but MUST install a eclipse-plugin
to detect those bugs and show them on screen.
(though both idea and eclipse users CAN choose to use maven plugin to do it
lol)

The plugin is:
eclipse_2020-08-29_00-28-02.png
(14 K)
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and the outcome gui page is:
eclipse_2020-08-29_00-30-29.png
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Well, it seems at least usable :)

Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午11:08写道:

> >  Keep in mind that not everyone uses IJ, for example, I use Eclipse.
> Yep.
> And not every jetbrains library requires people use idea.
> I think Eclipse can supports those annotations.
> Let me, have a test :)
>
>
> Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午11:04写道:
>
>> Keep in mind that not everyone uses IJ, for example, I use Eclipse.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:54 AM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >  IntelliJ specifies Runtime retention so they can interact
>> > with IntelliJ's internal JRE, which adds additional assertions into the
>> > code to enforce the annotations.
>> >
>> > seems never.
>> > see this demo repo.
>> > https://github.com/XenoAmess/demo_jetbrains_annotation
>> >
>> > And I looked up the sources and see every annotation classes be
>> > with RetentionPolicy.CLASS or RetentionPolicy.SOURCE
>> >
>> > HOWEVER, I was talking about org.jetbrainss.annotations.
>> > but for jsr305, which is google java codes, I will not be very
>> surprised if
>> > they have different ideas.
>> >
>> > Miguel Muñoz <swingguy1...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月28日周五 下午1:54写道:
>> >
>> > > Good question. IntelliJ specifies Runtime retention so they can
>> interact
>> > > with IntelliJ's internal JRE, which adds additional assertions into
>> the
>> > > code to enforce the annotations. So even though they have Runtime
>> > > retention, they're still a development-phase tool. In production, they
>> > > don't need to be retained at runtime. Personally, I never need the
>> > Runtime
>> > > retention feature, so if we write our own annotations, we can give
>> them
>> > > compile-time retention and they'll work fine. That's often how I
>> work. In
>> > > fact, I often use my own annotations, which don't have Runtime
>> retention,
>> > > and they work fine, so I don't miss that feature.
>> > >
>> > > — Miguel Muñoz
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jochen Wiedmann <
>> > > jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:08 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > AFAIK that means Maven won't download the dependency.
>> > > > > Surely that makes it harder for the developer?
>> > > >
>> > > > No, it means that Maven won't add the dependency to a distribution.
>> > > >
>> > > > However, I've got a question: These annotations have
>> > > > @Retention(Runtime). (See
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://www.javadoc.io/doc/com.google.code.findbugs/jsr305/latest/javax/annotation/Nullable.html
>> > > > .)
>> > > > Aren't we enforcing the presence of the respective jar at runtime?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Jochen
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before
>> > > > you break 'em.
>> > > >
>> > > >     -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time)
>> > > >
>> > > >
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