Or, they could move to TLP. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure what infra will say about managing multiple dev lists for one > project, but we can ask. > > I would suggest that if a project wants its own dev list, a VOTE be called. > Commons is still _one_ project, so all Commons PMC committers votes should > count, not just folks involved in that single project. > > Gary > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> > wrote: > >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:58:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >> >>> On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> >>>> Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >>>> >>>> If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the >>>>> project that's indeed an issue. >>>>> >>>> >> Two or three people said so. >> >> We had an average of 400 messages per >>>>> month in 2014, >>>>> >>>> >> Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of the >> "commons" lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 per >> month). >> >> that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7 >>>>> of lucene-dev. >>>>> >>>> >> The problem is not primarily "dev", it is that some people simply cannot >> spend even more time to cater for all the Commons projects; yet we receive >> all the notifications. >> It's basic care for others' comfort to fix this at the source. >> Is it so difficult to understand that I don't want to be flooded with >> notifications of commits to a codebase which I don't contribute to? >> >> It's also significantly below where Commons used to be when we had a >>> *lot* more active committers and contributors. >>> >> >> So it can be worse. That's very comforting indeed. >> >> >> Gilles >> >> >>>>> I don't think splitting the list by component is a good idea though, >>>>> this will kill the community (the 'all' list is unlikely to be popular). >>>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>> >>> +1 and lets maybe cut the threads like this (self-referential) one ;) >>> >>> Phil >>> >>>> >>>> - Jörg >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
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