I'm not sure what infra will say about managing multiple dev lists for one
project, but we can ask.

I would suggest that if a project wants its own dev list, a VOTE be called.
Commons is still _one_ project, so all Commons PMC committers votes should
count, not just folks involved in that single project.

Gary

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:58:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>>
>>> Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
>>>
>>>  If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the
>>>> project that's indeed an issue.
>>>>
>>>
> Two or three people said so.
>
>  We had an average of 400 messages per
>>>> month in 2014,
>>>>
>>>
> Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of the
> "commons" lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 per
> month).
>
>  that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
>>>> of lucene-dev.
>>>>
>>>
> The problem is not primarily "dev", it is that some people simply cannot
> spend even more time to cater for all the Commons projects; yet we receive
> all the notifications.
> It's basic care for others' comfort to fix this at the source.
> Is it so difficult to understand that I don't want to be flooded with
> notifications of commits to a codebase which I don't contribute to?
>
>  It's also significantly below where Commons used to be when we had a
>> *lot* more active committers and contributors.
>>
>
> So it can be worse. That's very comforting indeed.
>
>
> Gilles
>
>
>>>> I don't think splitting the list by component is a good idea though,
>>>> this will kill the community (the 'all' list is unlikely to be popular).
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>
>> +1 and lets maybe cut the threads like this (self-referential) one ;)
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>>
>>> - Jörg
>>>
>>
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