I'm not sure what infra will say about managing multiple dev lists for one project, but we can ask.
I would suggest that if a project wants its own dev list, a VOTE be called. Commons is still _one_ project, so all Commons PMC committers votes should count, not just folks involved in that single project. Gary On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:58:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> >>> Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >>> >>> If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining the >>>> project that's indeed an issue. >>>> >>> > Two or three people said so. > > We had an average of 400 messages per >>>> month in 2014, >>>> >>> > Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of the > "commons" lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 per > month). > > that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7 >>>> of lucene-dev. >>>> >>> > The problem is not primarily "dev", it is that some people simply cannot > spend even more time to cater for all the Commons projects; yet we receive > all the notifications. > It's basic care for others' comfort to fix this at the source. > Is it so difficult to understand that I don't want to be flooded with > notifications of commits to a codebase which I don't contribute to? > > It's also significantly below where Commons used to be when we had a >> *lot* more active committers and contributors. >> > > So it can be worse. That's very comforting indeed. > > > Gilles > > >>>> I don't think splitting the list by component is a good idea though, >>>> this will kill the community (the 'all' list is unlikely to be popular). >>>> >>> +1 >>> >> >> +1 and lets maybe cut the threads like this (self-referential) one ;) >> >> Phil >> >>> >>> - Jörg >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory