Le 19/12/2014 13:51, Gary Gregory a écrit :
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Luc Maisonobe <l...@spaceroots.org> wrote:
>>
>> Le 19/12/2014 03:25, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it's not done properly, why bother with a VOTE at all?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm with Sebb here. Yes, our release process is a PITA, but what Sebb is
>>> asking for is what I expect as well. If you want me to evaluate a RC and
>>> VOTE, please make my life and that of all the other reviewers, easier,
>> not
>>> harder.
>>
>> So do you want me to cancel the vote, redo all the process just because
>> the *mail* did not include the SHA ? Or should I cancel the vote and
>> just relaunch it from the exact same artifacts (and hence still and RC1)
>> to make the tag retrieving process clearer?
>>
> 
> What I would do is reply to my original VOTE mail with the missing
> information.

This is what I did. The missing information is both in this
message <http://markmail.org/message/he5t4nwcenhdu4sa> and in this
message <http://markmail.org/message/cue334v4yo6z7s2d>.

> Since the artifacts have not changed, there is no need to
> repeat the whole process. Calling a new VOTE thread is OK too, perhaps
> cleaner, especially for archeologists.

Well, the discussion is worth preserving too, and a new thread would
delay the result 15 hours later. So I'll keep this vote thread open
until a problem is found on the artifacts themselves.

best regards,
Luc

> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>>
>> By the way MATH_3_4_RC1 is really a tag, its not a branch despite the
>> command I suggested to retrieve it used the --branch option from git
>> clone; this option accepts both tags and branches. But I agree, even
>> tags in git can be deleted and recreated ... just like tags in svn which
>> can also be changed despite policy is to not do it. So in reality, there
>> is no less traceability here with a git tag than with a svn tag.
>> Furthermore, git tags can be GPG signed, which I did here.
>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes, I download the src zip and build, sometimes, I checkout the
>>> tag...
>>>
>>> FWIW, it should take a few minutes to transfer a site. Zip it, transfer
>> it,
>>> unzip it. One file at a time is asking for problems IMO. Or are you
>> saying
>>> that it takes hours to transfer even as a Zip?
>>
>> I tried to use the existing staging area for the site, so was stuck to
>> use svn, which does takes hours and in my case fails if the number of
>> files is too large. In any case, even if I first upload a zip in my area
>> on people.apache.org, I will have to use svn finally for updating the
>> real site, and hence I will have to go through this.
>>
>> The real problem with my approach is that since the staging area is
>> share, the site went live earlier than expected, so it is already on the
>> main site by nown sorry for that. It is not really a problem since the
>> site is already updated from time to time, as users asked on the list to
>> have the development API online, so the current site was alread almost
>> the final one (it was last published in mid-October, two months ago).
>>
>> So to avoid this, I'll go back to unpakc a zip on people.apache.org next
>> time.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Luc
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19 December 2014 at 00:51, Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Le 19/12/2014 01:08, sebb a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> The VOTE email should include all the information needed to validate a
>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right but this is exactly the kind of hassle that makes release
>>>>> management tedious and discourages people from publishing releases. At
>>>>> some point a balance has to be found between the expectations, and I
>>>>> think publishing new releases is more important than posting a VOTE
>> mail
>>>>> with an encyclopedic precision.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO Luc provided enough information to review the release properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Emmanuel Bourg
>>>>>
>>>>>
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