On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > 2014-03-12 13:37 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > [X] -1 I oppose this release because...
> > >
> > > I'm sorry to say but it is not possible to tell how to use this
> > components
> > > by looking at the site.
> > >
> > > The text descriptions could not be more terse and is devoid of
> examples.
> > > Finding the modules requires drilling down the site. The modules AND
> > > examples should be listed in the main menu. Preferably a user docs page
> > > should exist.
> > >
> > > Drilling down to the privilizer example source xref [1] is not helpful
> > > since the code has no comments.
> > >
> > > There appears to be a hierarchy of modules which is only discoverable
> by
> > > drilling down the whole site. For example, on
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/commons-weaver-processor/index.html
> > >
> > > there are two modules with the exact same kind of description and no
> > guide
> > > lines for when to use which one, unless you guess by the name of course
> > ;)
> > > No good enough IMO.
> > >
> > > The page starts with "This module provides the
> > > org.apache.commons:commons-weaver artifact." which are Maven concepts
> > > related to building Weaver itself or installing it for use in your
> > > IDE/editor. This shows to me that the docs need a "Building" and
> > > "Installing" section like some other sites have which tell you how to
> do
> > > just that, building and installing.
> > >
> > > I do not see how this component can be released without telling folks
> how
> > > to use it!
> > >
> >
> > We're still voting on source code here. The site is only a nice to have
> > imho. If you find yourself unable to verify the release (because you can
> > not tell how to use the component), from my PoV a -0 would be
> appropriate.
> > But casting a veto because the website is incomplete doesn't fit into the
> > "release early, release often" credo we have agreed upon.
>
>
> Bear in mind, releases cannot be vetoed. ;)


 Doesn't seem like Gary is asking for much. Is it not possible to improve
the website and achieve a consensus?

Niall



>  Matt
>
>
> > The website can
> > always be tweaked and republished.
> >
> > Having said that, I'll not have the time until friday to review this RC
> > myself :o)
> >
> > Benedikt
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/commons-weaver-modules-parent/commons-weaver-normalizer-parent/commons-weaver-normalizer-example/xref/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Matt Benson <mben...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Apache Commons Weaver 1.0 RC3 is available for review at:
> > > >   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/weaver/ (r4624).
> > > >
> > > > Maven artifacts are at:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1018/
> > > >  .
> > > >
> > > > Tested with Oracle JDKs 6, 7 and 8.
> > > >
> > > > The Subversion tag is:
> > > >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/weaver/tags/1.0_RC3/
> > > >  (r1576397).
> > > >
> > > > Site:
> > > >
> http://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/index.html
> > > >
> > > > RAT Report:
> > > >
> > >
> http://people.apache.org/~mbenson/commons-weaver-1.0-rc3/rat-report.html
> > > >
> > > > Keys: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/commons/KEYS
> > > >
> > > > Changes since RC2:
> > > >  - Configured project to run a single all-inclusive RAT report
> > > >  - Added missing license headers
> > > >  - Included issueManagement in POM (and thus in generated site)
> > > >  - Documented resulting need for expanded permgen when generating
> site
> > > >
> > > > Changes since RC1:
> > > >  - Removed -dist suffix from distribution files
> > > >  - Added release notes to binary distribution
> > > >  - Included project-specific LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt in jar
> > artifacts
> > > >  - Restricted checkstyle to run only for relevant modules
> > > >  - Fixed remaining checkstyle errors
> > > >  - Improved (somewhat) overview documentation
> > > >  - Removed license header from release notes
> > > >  - Added FindBugs and PMD reporting
> > > >
> > > > Please review the release candidate and vote.
> > > >   This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now, i.e. after
> > > 0000UTC
> > > > 15-March 2014
> > > >
> > > >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> > > >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
> > > >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> > > >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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