So what's the idea here? Should we apply additional logging layer (as
Jason proposed)? Or throw it away and start thinking about new
release?

I have reviewed TODOs and I haven't spotted any urgent task for now.


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2013/9/4 Jason Pyeron <jpye...@pdinc.us>:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benedikt Ritter [mailto:brit...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:28
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?
>>
>> 2013/9/4 Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>
>>
>> > 2013/9/3 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>:
>> > > I found 11 uses of e.printStackTrace and think its pretty bad.
>> > > Including OgnlException overwrites printStackTrace and writes to
>> > > System.err for some reason.
>> > >
>> > > In addition there are a lot of System.out's, but those are all
>> > > commented and seem to have served debugging purposes.
>> > >
>> > > I believe small libs like OGNL should not have logging at
>> all, but
>> > > it seems some of the logging here might make sense. I am
>> tending to
>> > > enable slf4j, which is already used in the testing scope.
>> Once done
>> > > we should use the logging methods for System.out and
>> printStackTrace.
>> >
>> > Why not Log4j or commons-logging?
>> >
>> > And it's really annoying to have different logging libs in the same
>> > project just because dependency uses that particular one - I like
>> > Struts2 way where you can choose what logging library you
>> want to use.
>> > I don't know if developing additional thin layer is a huge
>> problem -
>> > we can copy paste from S2 ;-)
>> >
>>
>> I agree that small libs should not have logging at all. Are
>> you really sure it is needed (sorry don't have the time to
>> dig into the code myself right know)?
>>
>
> As someone who has had to modify the code, yes logging should exist. I have a
> fork of it with util.logging here.
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