> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benedikt Ritter [mailto:brit...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:28
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?
> 
> 2013/9/4 Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>
> 
> > 2013/9/3 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>:
> > > I found 11 uses of e.printStackTrace and think its pretty bad.
> > > Including OgnlException overwrites printStackTrace and writes to 
> > > System.err for some reason.
> > >
> > > In addition there are a lot of System.out's, but those are all 
> > > commented and seem to have served debugging purposes.
> > >
> > > I believe small libs like OGNL should not have logging at 
> all, but 
> > > it seems some of the logging here might make sense. I am 
> tending to 
> > > enable slf4j, which is already used in the testing scope. 
> Once done 
> > > we should use the logging methods for System.out and 
> printStackTrace.
> >
> > Why not Log4j or commons-logging?
> >
> > And it's really annoying to have different logging libs in the same 
> > project just because dependency uses that particular one - I like
> > Struts2 way where you can choose what logging library you 
> want to use.
> > I don't know if developing additional thin layer is a huge 
> problem - 
> > we can copy paste from S2 ;-)
> >
> 
> I agree that small libs should not have logging at all. Are 
> you really sure it is needed (sorry don't have the time to 
> dig into the code myself right know)?
> 

As someone who has had to modify the code, yes logging should exist. I have a
fork of it with util.logging here.


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