On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
> Hi SCXML developers/community,
>
> We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
> development is, and and/or who in the community might be
> interested in re-activating it.
>
> From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has
> been happening here for a very long time: the last release 0.9
> dates back to December 2008 and the last serious code commits to
> June 2011...
>
> Looking back through the history of SCXML, Rahul Akolkar was and
> pretty much still is the only maintainer of the code but seemingly
> no longer able or willing to contribute much anymore.
>
> So, what to do with Commons SCXML?
>
> To put it bluntly, we would very much like to revive the
> development of SCXML again.

Great.
>
> We are working for Hippo (Open Source CMS vendor) and intend to
> start using SCXML as state machine engine in our product shortly.
>
> As the latest release is so old, and based on only Java 1.4, we're
> looking into using the Java 6 (J6) branch instead. But this branch
> is still 'work in progress' without any release (but targeted at
> next major version 1.0).
>
> This J6/1.0 branch AFAIK is intended to cover the final SCXML
> specification [1], but already running quite a bit behind the
> latest draft of that specification. However, this being a W3C
> specification, having to wait for it to become final before
> releasing a next major version of Commons SCXML seems very
> counter-productive to me...
>
> Both myself and Woonsan are Apache committers on several other ASF
> projects for quite some time, so we know 'how it works'. We would
> like to get out hands dirty, start contributing on Commons SCXML,
> and help move it forward towards a more current release.

Great.  We give sandbox commit to any ASF committer.  Reply with
your availIds and we can get that done immediately.  Commit to
commons proper requires a little more process, but we can get that
done easily assuming you want to join us as committers.
>
> But the question is: is there still anyone out here willing to
> pick up and review contributions, discuss stuff, etc.
>
> Hopefully Rahul can chime in (if still listening) and let us know
> what his ideas and plans are, or else maybe other active members
> of the Commons community?

Would be ideal if Rahul is still available / listening; otherwise
what you can count on is some random help / comments and help with
the release and build process.
>
> As a minimum we would like to get a Java 6+ compatible version
> released soon, maybe as a first milestone release towards 1.0, and
> incrementally add (more) compliance to the current SCXML
> specification.
>
> For this we propose to 'archive' the current stalled trunk (move
> it to a 0.xx branch or something), promote the current J6 branch
> to trunk, and then take it from there. Website and documentation
> fixes would be next to pick up and straighten out and updating the
> current Maven build. Possibly drop the outdated Ant build as well
> if nobody really is using or dependening on it anyway.

Sounds reasonable.
>
> As said, we're willing to step up here, but as non committers for
> Apache Commons we do need a 'handle' to get stuff moving again.

Welcome to commons!

Phil
>
> Thanks, Ate & Woonsan
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/
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