Hi.

> >> SingularMatrixException, NonSymmetricMatrixException and the likes are
> >> really tightly bound to linear algebra and could be in the linear
> >> package where they are triggered. They could appear in the signatures of
> >> algorithms in other package that do call linear algebra, but this is not
> >> sufficient to put them in a general package.
> > 
> > Yes, the "...MatrixException" classes are the borderline case (meaning that,
> > if they were the majority of exception classes, I'd prefer to see them in
> > the "linear" package). However, I argue that when there exists an
> > "exception" to contain the general exceptions, then it is clearer to have
> > them all there.
> > Moreover "NonPositiveDefiniteMatrixException" is already a counter-example
> > as it is used in "linear" and in "random".
> 
> It is used in random because the classes in the random package do use
> the linear package to perform a Cholesky decomposition, which triggers
> the exception. This is an example of the last sentence in my rationale
> above. This appearance is not sufficient to put the exception out of linear.

The class "CorrelatedRandomVectorGenerator" does not use the
"CholeskyDecomposition" from package "linear"; it has its own "decompose"
method which explicitly throws "NonPositiveDefiniteMatrixException"
instances (at lines 214 and 222).

> > Since we probably won't have much more exception classes than there are now
> > (31 out of which less than 10 are probably candidates for relocation in
> > their main use package), it is fairly manageable and it will be more stable.
> 
> Let's wait for the opinions of other people and decide upon that.
> 
> > 
> >>>
> >>>>  5) use a small hierarchy backed by an implementation of the principle
> >>>>     of exception context as per [lang] to provide state information
> >>>>     and allow extension by users calling addValue(label, value),
> >>>>     a typical example could be one ConvergenceException class and
> >>>>     different labels/values for count exceeded or NaN/Infinity appearing
> >>>
> >>> -1 for removing any of the new exceptions (except 
> >>> "NullArgumentException"):
> >>>    The hierarchy in trunk is shallow and small.
> >>>
> >>> +0 for implementing the map feature.
> >>>    Do you mean it as replacement of the "general" and "specific" message
> >>>    pattern (i.e. CM would use this feature) or as a user-only feature?
> >>
> >> I was thinking at both replacing the general and specific features and
> >> letting users call it in case they want to add their own stuff.
> > 
> > I'll create a JIRA issue for the new "map" feature, to discuss the details
> > of the functionality.
> 
> Fine, but discussion is easier on the list (with a dedicated thread), we
> can open the Jira issue once we have decided what to do.

I propose to extend the "MathThrowable" interface with methods declarations
similar to what is done in [Lang] and implement the functionality in
"MathRuntimeException". [While looking at it, I notice that [Lang] has
a dedicated "exception" package...]

> > 
> >>>
> >>>>  6) don't provide any top-level exception for errors occurring in
> >>>>     user-provided code (for solvers, ode, matrix visitors ...) but
> >>>>     ask them in documentation to use their own unchecked exception
> >>>>     that [math] will never see (i.e. remove FunctionEvaluationException,
> >>>>     DerivativeException, MatrixVisitorException)
> >>>
> >>> +1 for removing all exceptions for which there doesn't exist any "throw"
> >>>    statement within CM. And also "MathUserException" (the few uses of it 
> >>> in
> >>>    trunk should be replaced).
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not sure for NullPointer/NullArgument. Perhaps our own
> >>>> NullArgumentException with the [lang] exception context principle would
> >>>> be fine. I doubt we should check everything by ourselves (it would be a
> >>>> real performance killer), so whatever we choose there will be untracked
> >>>> NPE. We should check some arguments where it makes sense, which is what
> >>>> we already do at some places.
> >>>
> >>> +1 for dropping "NullArgumentException" and letting the JVM raise NPE.
> > 
> > I'll also create a JIRA issue for reaching a conclusion on this one.
> 
> OK, I think we agree here. Phil preferred the way we created runtime
> exceptions as of 2.1, though. Perhaps we could revive a simple
> createNullPointerException without arguments ?

But why would one prefer to write
---
  throw MathRuntimeException.createNullPointerException();
---
instead of
---
  throw new NullPointerException();
---
?

Not only is this inconvenient, it is also dangerous: I was bitten more than
once writing this:
---
  MathRuntimeException.createNullPointerException();
---
which the compiler happily accepted.

> > 
> >>>> Hoping to conclude this fast ...
> >>>
> >>> Let's not be too hasty ;-). There can be some work left for 4.0.
> >>
> >> I hope this would be algorithm work.
> > 
> > New algorithms can always be included in 3.x releases. I was referring to
> > a "refactoring" (which entails incompatibilities). This is not a bad thing;
> > quite the contrary, this is how a programming project stays alive, in sync
> > with technology advances, and keeps attracting developers.
> 
> Yes, but lengthy and harsh discussions keep them away.

Indeed, indeed...


Best regards,
Gilles

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