On Apr 14, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote:


the point is, what do we gain by a change to SLF4J? For simple components like the ones in Apache Commons it is enough to have one logging facade. There was a major effort to resolve any problem with CL 1.1.1. Most of its bad reputation was a result of Tomcat using CL itself. Tomcat is using JUL now and I really bet SLF4J would suffer from the same problems if used as
base of a JEE server. Additionally, since you can use SLF4J as direct
replacement, every user is free to do so.

Valid points. The main issue I have with Commons Logging is just that it is too minimal. But that can easily be addressed. But I do have a couple of comments. 1. The code was already changed from using Commons Logging as it does in trunk to use java.util.logging. Both Oliver and I have stated that we dislike that and want to change it to a facade. So it isn't a matter of changing it versus leaving it alone. 2. SLF4J isn't a "direct" replacement for Commons Logging. The APIs aren't exactly the same.

Ralph


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