On 19/03/2009, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think the use of JCIP annotations should be an Apache Commons-wide
>  decision. It would only be sensible to share the annotations across
>  projects. Otherwise, we could get fragmentation pretty easily.

Fragmentation?

If a project uses concurrency annotations, it should use the same
library, buy I see no reason why every component should _have_ to use
them.

>
>  Paul
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 19/03/2009, Stephen Colebourne <scolebou...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>  >> sebb wrote:
>  >>
>  >> >
>  >> > >  Are you proposing including these pieces of annotation code in 
> [lang],
>  >> or
>  >> > > just referencing them? If its just referencing them, then it has no 
> real
>  >> > > effect, and should be fine (aprt from making the compilation a little
>  >> more
>  >> > > complex)
>  >> > >
>  >> > >
>  >> >
>  >> > I'm not sure what you mean by "including" or "referencing".
>  >> >
>  >> > I am proposing to add
>  >> >
>  >> > import net.jcip.annotations.Immutable
>  >> > and
>  >> > @Immutable
>  >> >
>  >> > to the source files of classes that deserve it. Similarly for the other
>  >> cases.
>  >> >
>  >> > Much like using @Override, except that the annotations are not part of 
> the
>  >> JDK.
>  >> >
>  >>
>  >>  Thats OK technically (as there is no runtime dependency on
>  >> net.jcip.annotations). However, I suspect it will confuse users, as very 
> few
>  >> people realise that no dependency is created beyond compilation time.
>  >>
>  >>  So, overall, I'm dubious as to whether the value is sufficient to
>  >> compilcate the compliation and to field the inevitable confusion/questions
>  >> as to 'why we added a dependency' (when we didn't add one really...)
>  >>
>  >
>  > Again, I'm not sure I follow.
>  >
>  > I don't see how the addition of a single new dependency complicates
>  > the compilation.
>  > If there is any complication, it is from trying to follow what Maven
>  > is doing ;-).
>  >
>  > Nor do I see why users will be confused, so long as the site shows
>  > that LANG depends on Java 1.5 only.  Many of them will just use Maven
>  > to pick up the new version. If necessary one can always add some
>  > information on the site as to how annotations behave.
>  >
>  > I think it's well worth the exercise of checking all the classes to
>  > see which annotation applies; if necessary the annotations (and
>  > imports) could be added as single-line comments. [But I really don't
>  > want to do that.]
>  >
>  > I suspect that the change to using generics will be a much greater
>  > challenge to users; if they can cope with that, then annotations
>  > should be relatively easy.
>  >
>  > Indeed hopefully users will start adding annotations to their own code...
>  >
>  >>  Stephen
>  >>
>  >>
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