On Feb 8, 2008 4:32 PM, Gary Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:24 AM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [io] 2.0 Moving to minimum of JDK 1.5
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2008 5:24 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 2/8/08, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > If there's a class or interface, say o.a.c.io.SomeClass, that needs to
> > > > be changed extensively to match "Java 5 style", then I'd name the
> > > > modified version o.a.c.io.SomeClass2 (or something better if
> > > > possible).
> > >
> > > I don't know about that.  Then, we could potentially have classes like
> > > SomeClass, SomeClass2, SomeClass3, etc. running around. Also, it
> > > wouldn't be as easy to upgrade to a new version.  If it were done the
> > > other way, folks could just do a find/replace on the package name in
> > > their code and be done.
> >
> > Why I should need the find/replace in the first place? A find/replace
> > won't help with any fundamental API incompatibilities that would
> > trigger the creation of SomeClass2.
> >
> > You'd only need to upgrade to SomeClass2 if you actually need the new
> > functionality, otherwise you could just keep using the old API when
> > upgrading from 1.x to 2.x. With the o.a.c.io2 proposal everybody would
> > need to update their code when upgrading even if no part of the API
> > they touch has changed.
>
> I do not think this last paragraph is correct. The io2 package is not only 
> free to introduce generics in the API, it is also free to use Java 5 features 
> in its internal implementation. This gives us the freedom to use all Java 5 
> features in io2 while keeping the API or most of it the same. So if you are 
> using io2, you must use Java 5. If you have a 3rd party library that depends 
> on io (v1.x), then you need the io package around too.

But why does changing to use generics make it incompatible - since
java erases generics?

So far I believe all the JDK 1.5 changes I've done (including
generics) are backward compatible - clirr thinks so except when I
changed the LineIterator next() method to return a String rather than
Object - but I think thats an error on clirrs part.

Niall

> So, in short, you need all of io v2 in io2 and all of io v1 in io. This 
> allows for an application to depend on both and allows io2 to use all of Java 
> 5 internally and in presenting its external API.

> Gary
>
>
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting

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