Awesome, thanks Remi. I will review this. *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer
*CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Remi Bergsma <rberg...@schubergphilis.com> wrote: > Hi Will, > > We used this to test hundreds of PRs: > https://github.com/schubergphilis/MCT-shared/. I can talk you through it > sometime next week or so if you want. > > Regards, > Remi > > > On 01/03/16 21:50, "williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of Will Stevens" < > williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: > > >Thanks Paul. Great to hear you are planning to make everything available > >and you are willing to take contributions from the community. > > > >I am currently trying to get up to speed on everything that has been done > >and all the different pieces in play. I would like to have a CI in place > >(even if it is only locally on my hardware) for testing PRs for 4.9. My > >focus right now is solving the CI problem, so I am interested in any > >developments on this front. > > > >We have Travis doing smoke tests on every PR right now. Travis is free > for > >open source projects. Is there a reason we are not doing more extensive > >tests with Travis since it is already integrated into github? Like maybe > >running the simulator on every PR? I think this could be a good first > step > >to weed out some of the PRs that are likely to fail a full CI run. > > > >Cheers, > > > >*Will STEVENS* > >Lead Developer > > > >*CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > >420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 > >w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_ > > > >On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Will, > >> > >> It will be 100% open source. The $dayjob has blocked the team from > working > >> on it recently. I'd like to get some of our ideas into the CloudStack > wiki > >> this week before I go on leave for a week. > >> Rohit has created a repo for us: https://github.com/shapeblue/Trillian > >> (which looks a bit sad at the moment - I hope to push our Ansible roles > >> for building mgmt. servers and Marvin boxes into it this week also) > >> > >> Internally we're planning a two week sprint on it starting 14th March. > >> Having to dip in and out of this effort is making it very difficult to > get > >> anywhere > >> > >> I think the biggest part of the work will be to get Marvin up to > scratch, > >> the log output from the tests is pretty bad. > >> > >> We very much want this to be a community 'thing', and we're happy to > work > >> with everyone/anyone to get there. > >> > >> Any ideas on the most effective way to have a number of people on this - > >> I'm all ears. > >> In the meantime I'll try to make good on my promises to get our ideas > >> visible to everyone... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Paul Angus > >> VP Technology , ShapeBlue > >> > >> > >> t: @cloudyangus<tel:@cloudyangus> > >> > >> e: paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >> | w: www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On > >> Behalf Of Will Stevens > >> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:52 PM > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: Important Pending Items > >> > >> @Paul and @Bharat, thank you for the quality write-ups on this topic. > >> > >> re:Paul's Details: > >> I share a lot of your thoughts on this. The hypervisor in hypervisor > setup > >> with the ability to test multiple environments is also core to my > thinking. > >> I can't find any details on Trillian, other than what is in this > thread. Is > >> it open source and freely available? This is being developed at > ShapeBlue? > >> > >> re:Bharat's Details: > >> This seems like it is the most likely candidate for being able to offer > >> value in the short term. Thank you for the work documenting it and > making > >> the source available. I still need to review the code. This approach > will > >> take quite a bit of work get setup initially, but once setup, it looks > like > >> it will do the trick. By using only freely available software makes it > more > >> accessible than some options which have been suggested in the past. > >> > >> My thoughts on the topic: > >> - I think it is important that the CI can test all the different > >> hypervisors and any hardware integrations available in the environment. > >> - Ideally the CI tool would be easily distributed and installed at > >> multiple sites. Every company who depends on ACS will have their own > >> configuration, hardware and mission critical features. If the CI can be > >> distributed (as independent installs), it will reduce the load on any > >> specific site and it will enable companies who have specific hardware in > >> their direct path to success the ability to validate their use case. > >> - I think a standardized CI output is also important. Ideally the > summary > >> of the CI run would be posted back to the PR thread. I think it is also > >> important to push the detailed logs to a central location so others can > >> review them. Ideally, links to the detailed logs would also be pushed to > >> the PR thread. > >> - I think there should be multiple tiers of testing. Basic simulator > >> testing and full runs. We may be able to setup simulator testing using a > >> Docker container. I think @pdion891 has put some work into this that I > may > >> be able to build on. > >> - I think it is probably too ambitious to do CI on every PR before > merge, > >> but ideally we would We may have to only CI the master branch for now > and > >> revert any PR that causes it to fail. > >> > >> I have been digging into this quite a bit today. I will continue working > >> on this as it is very important to me for the 4.9 release. I would like > to > >> setup a CI environment locally as well to help validate and contribute > to > >> the effort. I have some hardware I can throw at this, so I will be > working > >> to get something setup to start testing ASAP. > >> > >> If I can work off either (or both) of your work, I would appreciate it. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> *Will STEVENS* > >> Lead Developer > >> > >> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts > >> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw > >> @CloudOps_ > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Bharat Kumar <bharat.ku...@citrix.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi Paul, > >> > > >> > The goals and functionality of the CI on which we are working are the > >> > same (please review the FS< > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Test+bed+orches > >> > trator+and+test+runner+to+enable+continuos+integration> > >> > ), The difference being the method of implementation. We are not using > >> > nested virtualisation to create test environments. The work on CI > >> > began long back but unfortunately due to other priorities we could not > >> > work on a continuous basis and bring it to completion. > >> > > >> > I agree that we should come to a consensus on what the community wants > >> > from the CI. IMHO the basic and immediate requirement would be to have > >> > a stable system to test the PRs and post results. Once we have this, > >> > we can talk about providing test setups to the community and next > >> > steps. I think the availability of hardware has been a big hurdle > >> > (even if we use virtualisation). > >> > > >> > Instead of working independently on the same thing let us work on this > >> > together. I will share what we have currently, we can use it, or parts > >> > of it (some of it is there at > >> > https://github.com/bvbharatk/cloudstack-automation, but it is not > >> > organised as in cannot be run out of the box). While virtualisation is > >> > good from the ease of orchestration and resource utilisation point of > >> > view, it has other problems like compatibility/dependencies issues. > >> > Also it might tie the CI to a particular Hypervisor like ESXi as you > >> have pointed out. > >> > > >> > So let us discuss on how to proceed further, and get things rolling. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Bharat. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 11-Feb-2016, at 9:44 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com > <mailto: > >> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Bharat, > >> > > >> > Early last week I opened a discussion thread around the aims of > >> > Trillian which we had begun working on as a CI/CD platform for the > >> > community hardware (as well as individual use). Please could you > >> > elaborate on where there is/isn't cross-over? In terms of > >> > functionality and goals rather than method. It would be great to get > >> > community consensus around what we want from our centralised CI/CD. > >> > > >> > > >> > Project: Trillian > >> > We have been working on PoC of a CI environment design which will: > >> > * Provide fast build or rebuild of environments for testing. > >> > * Enable multiple independent concurrent builds > >> > * Be available on-demand through automation or individual request. > >> > * Be capable of fully utilising all available hardware > >> > * Flexible enough to be used to build super-realistic development > >> > environments. > >> > We intend to contribute and maintain our work within the Apache repos. > >> > However, we are currently building the POC, figuring out the > >> > requirements (and quirks) of the individual pieces, before pushing > >> > something concrete for to the community to review. > >> > > >> > We envision that Trillian would cater for a number of use cases: > >> > 1. CloudStack community integration testing of master against multiple > >> > deployment scenarios (using ASF infra) 2. CloudStack community > >> > integration testing of PRs against multiple deployment scenarios > >> > (using ASF infra) 3. Organisations/individuals running the full suites > >> > of tests available in Marvin against any physical environment they > >> > have. > >> > 4. Organisations/individuals deploying and running the full suites of > >> > tests available in Marvin against virtualised infrastructures which > >> > can be deployed by Marvin. > >> > As we intend Trillian to test multiple environments concurrently, we > >> > use nested virtualization on ESXi hosts (our testing has shown that > >> > this is the only hypervisor which can support the nested > >> > virtualisation of all other hypervisors with reasonable performance). > >> > We use Ansible to deploy and configure all aspects of the build as > >> > this will greatly lower the barrier to entry for independent testers. > >> > We use CloudStack to provision the management server and virtualised > >> > (nested) hosts on the physical hosts. We are creating Ansible > >> > playbooks and roles which can: > >> > 1. Create guest instances using Rene's Ansible 2.0 CloudStack modules > >> > - a Marvin VM, a Mgmt Server (CentOS or Ubuntu), any number of compute > >> > hosts (KVM, vSphere or XenServer. Hyper-V later) 2. Configure hosts > >> > (inc. installing the relevant CloudStack agent where > >> > required) > >> > 3. Install required ACS packages on management server 4. Configure a > >> > zone (including adding the compute hosts) via Marvin. > >> > 5. Run the required Marvin tests. > >> > 6. Return the results > >> > We may need to propose enhancements to Marvin in order to sync the > >> > configuration of hosts with the configuration used by Marvin. > >> > > >> > Using virtualised test environments, we can have multiple test > >> > scenarios running concurrently. To do this we have found that it is > >> > necessary to create pools or ranges of VLANs and IP addresses and > >> > allocate them to environments. So for any given physical environment > >> > which will be used for testing in, we take the total range(s) of IPs > >> > and VLANs available and carve them into non-overlapping chunks > >> > suitable for concurrent use as mgmt, public and guest networks. These > >> > are stored in a MariaDB database. When a range is being used in a > >> > testing environment, that range is marked as 'inuse' in the database. > >> > When creating a test environment, Trillian looks in the database for > >> > the next available VLAN range, the next available public IP range and > >> > so on. The returned values are used to populate a Marvin cfg file > >> > which in turn will be used to both build the environment and when > >> > running the Marvin testing. When the virtualised infra is cleaned up, > >> > the database will be updated to reflect that the used ranges are > >> available again. > >> > This initiative has only recently been started, and as stated earlier > >> > we are currently figuring out the requirements (and quirks) of the > >> > individual pieces and looking for the most suitable wrapper to glue it > >> all together. > >> > Also I have found that Marvin requires a little work to make the > >> > output more meaningful/readable (especially in the case of errors and > >> > exceptions) and to make it a little more intelligent about the tests > >> > it can/can't run based on the chosen infrastructure components. I have > >> > also found unreachable or very slow ISO and template paths hardcoded > >> > into Marvin or individual tests. > >> > We plan to enhance tests to address these issues and also reduce > >> > runtimes where possible. > >> > > >> > > >> > <http://www.shapeblue.com/> > >> > Paul Angus > >> > VP Technology , ShapeBlue > >> > > >> > > >> > d: +44 203 617 0528 | s: +44 203 603 0540 > >> <tel:+44%20203%20617%200528%20|%20s:%20+44%20203%20603%200540> > >> > | m: +44 7711 418784<tel:+44%207711%20418784> > >> > > >> > e: paul.an...@shapeblue.com | t: @cloudyangus<mailto: > >> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com%20|%20t:%20@cloudyangus> | w: > >> > www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com/> > >> > > >> > a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue > >> > Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated > >> > under license from Shape Blue Ltd. 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Please contact the sender if you believe you have > received > >> this email in error. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Bharat Kumar [mailto:bharat.ku...@citrix.com] > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:57 AM > >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >> > Subject: Re: Important Pending Items > >> > > >> > Hi Sebastien, > >> > > >> > As Raja said, we are actively working on it and we will share the code > >> > on github soon. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Bharat. > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 11-Feb-2016, at 2:41 PM, Raja Pullela <raja.pull...@citrix.com > >> > <mailto:raja.pull...@citrix.com>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hi Sebastien, > >> > > > >> > > On item (3) - the BVTs have been running consistently (with same > >> > passrates) and haven't had the time to automate the process of > >> > reporting to an external site. > >> > > Bharat and Sanjeev are working on CI - running BVTs/Regression, > >> > > working > >> > on getting it run automatically and consistently. > >> > > Hope to see it ready soon. > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > Raja > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com] > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:29 PM > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > >> > > Subject: Important Pending Items > >> > > > >> > > Morning folks, > >> > > > >> > > We have several crucial pending items, that we need to resolve > >> > > before > >> > moving on: > >> > > > >> > > 1- We need an RM for master ( just saw some commits there that > >> > > should be > >> > reverted or merged properly in other branches). > >> > > > >> > > 2- We need to automate writing release notes, pushing/tagging new > >> > > docs > >> > when release come out and announcing releases on website. 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